Thank you too. Good post.

Yes he could fight Garcia, but Garcia is with golden boy. From what i have read Cotto is going to be with Top Rank even as a "free agent".

Well, it's more a testament to how much in the ****ter US boxing is. Most of the big names are guys from other places that still draw good numbers in the US. Guys like Cotto, Canelo, Martinez etc.

If we look at US names i would imagine Hopkins, Garcia, Broner, Brandon Rios or even Arreola may be bigger draws.
How about Paul Malignaggi?

The thing is Bradley is not a PPV draw at all and guys like Malignaggi at least draw a large crowd.

All those guys you mention other than Bradley/Marquez are with Golden Boy unfortunately.

At 154 there's Canelo (golden boy, but if these are going to get a long it's for a "superfight" rather than a lesser fight), rematch with Trout... Other than that i'm not sure there is much? Much of the talent at 154 is with Golden Boy.

I admit there's more interesting fights for Cotto at 147. Especially if he can fight Golden Boy fighters. You are correct in that.
I fear Cotto would not enjoy the cut at this stage though.

Yes, i agree and the potential upside would be huge. Becoming the lineal middleweight champ of the world would be huge for Cottos legacy.


Solid plan and i agree with it. Not sure he should fight Canelo first though because if he lose to him there's almost no chance of getting a shot at the middleweight crown where as if he lose vs. Martinez it's no big deal moving down.

Most of all i would like to fight Khan/Broner/Marquez at 147 if i could make the weight and get a long with GBP.


Again, good post and you made me look at it in a different way. Sorry for possible broken engrish!

HBO on demand watching this Vera-Chavez fight. I've got it

1 Chavez
2 Chavez
3 Chavez
4 Chavez
5 Vera
6 Chavez
7 Chavez (was Vera's round until Chavez almost dropped him at the bell)
8 Vera
9 Vera
10 Vera

So I have it 96-94 Chavez.

Also, Chavez the least likable fighter ever. Never seen someone cry to the ref so much.

That was a hard fight to score. No idea how you could get 98-92 tho.

You're right kingofcool, if he can grab a Martinez fight first, that would make a lot of sense. He needs another tuneup in the meantime (if he could get Malignagi up to 154 somehow that would be perfect I think, big payday, competitive enough, but a likely win), because Martinez isn't going to be ready til summer right?

I guess perfect world, you fight someone that can help draw you a nice payday, but you can still beat but look like you didn't just fight another weak opponent, then Martinez, then Canelo (win or lose vs Martinez this fight might still have a chance).

If you beat Martinez you might even get to jump Canelo and fight Floyd, with anything except being knocked out getting you the Canelo fight

But yea, some of those guys are GB, hopefully we realize the benefits of the big fights after the split this winter, then they make up and we see some big fights continue in 2014. These guys can't just ignore each other long term, way too many big fights won't get made and it'll hurt them both a lot.

yea i rewatched the fight and had it a draw after having vera 7-5 first but it really was one of the most obvious "action/volume v power" fights ever. Some of those chavez shots were really really really powerful but vera has an amazing chin. Each round though i thought there were 1 or 2 punches that chavez would land that you could hear through the tv that moved vera's head back and could have swayed the judges quite a bit. Lots of the rounds came down to the philosophy of the judges i think. I was def rooting for vera though, chavez a huge douche but i tried to give him a little bit of a benefit of the doubt since i know I don't like him.

interesting fight I don't remember all the rounds that well but giving chavez first four seem way different then when i scored it rewatching iirc.

Nothing official yet but it looks like Trout - Lara Dec. 7

that will be incredibly boring


will still watch

Ramirez 25 (KO 15)-3
Lomachenko 0-0

explanation:

"Lomachenko finished his amateur career with a career record of 396-1, with his only loss avenged twice"

JMM/Bradley has the makings of an intriguing fight. Kinda figure Bradley is going to stumble around the ring for a lot of the fight as JMM counterpunches his way to a decision win. Somebody will give it to Bradley because lol boxing.

The undercard looks like ****. Prob won't stay up to watch this fight.

I actually fancy Bradley in this one, think Marquez might get old tonight.

Yea same, might throw a few quid on Bradley by decision at 3.2.

I think marquez will win a decision. Won't even speculate on the cards because they are always way different than each other nowadays

I think bradley will fight a very smart fight this fight though in terms of using his boxing and not brawling at all but i think marquez will land the heavier shots that win him rounds

Very possible bradley is never the same after the provodnikov fight though who knows. I hope not cuz he is a pretty likeable guy and has a lot of WIM but that was pretty brutal. I don't think Salido-Cruz will be a terrible undercard fight at all though really. I'll prob watch the fights at BWW or something. I expect a decent main event but not great in terms of action. Strategically though I think it is a really interesting fight esp for Bradley . I'm not sure how much more damage to his head he can sustain and marquez is a guy capable of the shot you just don't see coming.

No mention of the awesome November 14th card yet?

Broner-Maidana
Molina-Ortiz (meh i hate molina he is boring as **** but don't think ortiz can be in a bad fight)
Thurmann-Jesus Soto Karass (this has brawlll all over it)
Alfredo Angulo-Jorge Melendez (angulo never in bad fights, never seen other guy but supposedly a cotto protege)

That card does look great.

Why do people think Bradley will all of a sudden change the way he fights btw? I mean, would be smart, but his last two fights he did not fight smart at all. After getting hit in the head a bunch for the last year he'll get smarter?

Agree.

i thought he fought fine v pac just not good enough but i didn't think he was really brawling or anything. I imagine he had some incentive in his head to go out there and put on a show vs prov and that turned ugly quick. seems like something he *should* learn from. at least in all the 24/7s he is pretty adamant about boxing smart this time around

but you could be right...we'll see. I still think he loses, but i don't think he will get knocked out

a fight like this one seems like the +800 for a split decision might be worth a gamble given what we have seen with judges the last year or so

Bradley got hit and hurt against Prov but he won round after round with great boxing. Thought it was pretty impressive

Lomachenko - Ramirez

in <10 min

wtf @ that knockdown

lomachenko lookin solid in his debut

very very fast hands

these 5-6 punch combos are pretty sick


edit- and there is the body shot KO

bradley/marquez comin up shortly

solido dominated cruz pretty good ending in a 7th round KO that was prob the accumulation of a lot of body shots/head shots


liked how solido looked out there

I agree he fought a good fight and I thought Bradley won that fight too.

But I didn't feel Prov was the fighter that Marquez is, and that's no offense to him at all (I think he's really good, but I think Alvarado will beat him too). Marquez is very good.

We'll see, should be good. I really like Bradley as a fighter, he puts on a great show.

LET US MARQUEZ!

I just don't see JMM losing. He's got too much power if Bradley goes to war and is a better counterpuncher if Bradley decides to outbox and play conservative.

dont care how many steroids you use or how much piss you drink, 40 is old