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09-18-2011 , 12:59 AM

#5301

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

what a sucker punch

legal, but scummy behavior from a scumbag

Love the look on the ref's face. "OH ****, they're fighting"

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09-18-2011 , 01:00 AM

#5302

Hoya

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Clapping hands DOES not signal a restart. A restart is done with hand motion (normally a chopping or pointing motion) in conjunction with a word "box" or "fight" (or something similar) said simultaneously. No verbal declaration was made and the physical gesture was unclear, meaning that the fight was not restarted.

Thus the fight should be a no contest. Both fighters should lose their purse and the referee should be fined/suspended.

Watch the youtube link again. Cortez says "lets go," and motions them to come together in the center of the ring. Then he looks over to the timekeeper to ask if the bell rang while Ortiz was busy not defending himself and getting knocked out.

Cortez could have been more assertive, but Ortiz is a moron for not keeping his hands up and I can't feel too bad for him after the blatant headbutt. What Mayweather did was cheap and not good sportsmanship, but it was legal.

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09-18-2011 , 01:00 AM

#5303

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i guess wapacman should honor his agreement to take the tests and rid this planet of THE villain.

somehow i see another roadblock from his camp though.

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09-18-2011 , 01:02 AM

#5304

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how the **** can the ref count him out, if he didn't see what happened? That's wwe **** right there.

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09-18-2011 , 01:02 AM

#5305

SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

To people saying both fighters should lose their purse, that isn't allowed is it? I thought there was a limit like $3mil or something that the NBC could withhold.

Not sure. Whatever it is, the max should be taken away.

And the ref did NOT restart the fight. I'm looking at the YouTube video and Joe is talking and pointing at the timekeeper outside the ring, not pointing anywhere near the fighter. Although it should be a no contest, it probably won't be ruled that way.

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09-18-2011 , 01:02 AM

#5306

ItsRainingMen

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haters gonna hate and all that, but this ****ing clown has had the biggest role in killing boxing. it is flat out unreal

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09-18-2011 , 01:05 AM

#5307

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg1a...layer_embedded

Watch at 1:03. Cortez restarts the fight.

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09-18-2011 , 01:06 AM

#5308

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Talked to Keith Kizer of NV Commission. Cortez pointed to time keeper and said time in. Punches were legal, according to Kizer. #boxing

boom

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09-18-2011 , 01:06 AM

#5309

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I had a feeling Mayweather would try to get in a cheap shot while they were Ortiz was trying to make up with him. He's done this in the past. One time to Corrales when he was trying to pull up his pants and did the exact same thing to Gatti wobbling him too. Ortiz is a moron for trusting this guy. What Mayweather did was legal but it was also classless. I mean I would of accepted him giving Ortiz the first shot just to get him back but to wind up with full power for the second pretty much a DB move.

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09-18-2011 , 01:06 AM

#5310

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Reminds me of the old WWF when the referee would go to the turnbuckle to tie his shoe, and someone like Flair would pull brass knuckles out and pop his opponent. Ref turns and Flair gets the ol' one-two-three!

hahaha yeah

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09-18-2011 , 01:06 AM

#5311

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Originally Posted by Gibby_73

MMA sucks. Less action starting to happen in those fights as well, resulting in descions. Fighters are starting to realize there is legit money to be had so they will minimize risk, and this Fox contract will only make it worse.

lol

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Originally Posted by kingofcool

i guess wapacman should honor his agreement to take the tests and rid this planet of THE villain.

somehow i see another roadblock from his camp though.

how exactly is the Pac/PBF fight not happening Manny's fault? Or am I misunderstanding you?

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09-18-2011 , 01:07 AM

#5312

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Originally Posted by yowhatsup

15 years ago there was controversy of a major fight being fixed in Vegas, when the dust settled Tupac got shot. What I am trying to say is R.I.P 50 Cent.

is this for real? details/link?

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09-18-2011 , 01:08 AM

#5313

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LOL at Mayweather calling out the Ortiz camp for calling him dirty.

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09-18-2011 , 01:08 AM

#5314

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Originally Posted by Hoya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg1a...layer_embedded

Watch at 1:03. Cortez restarts the fight.

but then he doesn't watch the fight. That's like an ump saying "play ball" then talking to another ump only to come back and assume the batter struck out.

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09-18-2011 , 01:08 AM

#5315

Alvin the Chipmunk

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I can't stop laughing!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!

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09-18-2011 , 01:09 AM

#5316

Ashy Knuckles

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Protect yourself AT ALL TIMES !!!!

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09-18-2011 , 01:09 AM

#5317

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http://www.sportsgrid.com/weird-but-...arry-merchant/

Video of interview/argument

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09-18-2011 , 01:09 AM

#5318

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

how exactly is the Pac/PBF fight not happening Manny's fault?

I think the fault lies on both shoulders.

Thats not what i said however (though i do feel theres been more unreasonable excuses by pacs camp than the other side) . I did say i wouldn't be surprised to see Pacs camp make another turn in regards to the tests they've accepted.

Nice edit, but no, I'm not stupid. Are you mad?

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09-18-2011 , 01:10 AM

#5319

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Originally Posted by HungryHippo

but then he doesn't watch the fight. That's like an ump saying "play ball" then talking to another ump only to come back and assume the batter struck out.

I agree, Cortez should have been paying attention instead of looking like he was having a stroke. But either way, the fight was on and Ortiz needed to be defending himself.

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09-18-2011 , 01:10 AM

#5320

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Originally Posted by mike ski

is this for real? details/link?

ESPN did a 30 for 30 on this last year.

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09-18-2011 , 01:11 AM

#5321

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Originally Posted by HungryHippo

but then he doesn't watch the fight. That's like an ump saying "play ball" then talking to another ump only to come back and assume the batter struck out.

Basically this.

The Ref actually does a sort of double take at the scorer's table after he tells the fighters to come together. It's almost like he tells them "time in" and they don't hear him or something so he has to say it again. Why he didn't separate the fighters there I don't know.

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09-18-2011 , 01:12 AM

#5322

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Originally Posted by kingofcool

not mad, just confused how anyone could place much of the blame with manny's side. floyd is way, way, the reason the fight hasn't happened. And that's been extensively covered earlier in this thread.

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09-18-2011 , 01:13 AM

#5323

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Originally Posted by mike ski

is this for real? details/link?

Tupac.jpg

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09-18-2011 , 01:15 AM

#5324

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Originally Posted by LanXang

He also did it in his last fight with Shane. Only difference is Shane can take a punch.

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09-18-2011 , 01:16 AM

#5325

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Everyone blames Floyd for the fight not happening primarily because they don't like him. In reality both guys have gigantic egos (although Manny is slightly better at hiding it) and neither is willing to give any ground or allow themselves to not be the dominant force in the negotiations. Floyd may very well be more at fault (I think it's tough to judge negotiations solely based on what biased parties are saying) but most people take it way too far.

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