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05-22-2011 , 12:35 AM
LOL Pascal.. part 3? He schooled you my man. And he honestly beat you in the first fight too.

Whos out there for Hopkins?
Chad Dawson ofcourse.
Lucian Bute apparently.
Super Six winner?

Could he take a cruiserweight title, or is that just silly?
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05-22-2011 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hoyasnaxa
oldest champion ever. wow.

also, de la hoya in rehab as someone said although no mention of why.
Yep BHop deserves major major props. Beating Dawson would definitely push his legacy towards ATG status. Although his run at MW probably already included him on that list.

And yea De La Hoya checked into rehab heard about it this morning on a boxing forum, a reason hasnt been released although rumors from close sources say its an alcohol and blow related issue. We'll just have to see, his twitter is wierd...always posting random pics of himself drunk and stuff at like 3am in bed. Wierd dude hope it works out for him
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05-22-2011 , 12:45 AM
I had it closer than most of you, with hopkins up 2 rounds.

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Originally Posted by kingofcool
I really hope Hopkins finds a way to beat Dawson.
why does he need to find a way? hes obviously the best there is at that weight class. Pascal is way better than Dawson who doesnt have heart
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05-22-2011 , 12:45 AM
best sports thread on 2p2, best posters imo

always a pleasure

even more so when i hit bhop +210 by dec and other stuff as well
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05-22-2011 , 12:48 AM
Awesome fight.
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05-22-2011 , 12:53 AM
The push ups during the delay is classic BHop. He is a fool most of the time he isn't in the ring, but inside it hes an absolute legend. When will he ever stop? 50? 55? Get Calzaghe in the ring and have them go at it again.
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05-22-2011 , 12:56 AM
Clutching and grabbing makes boxing boring as ****.
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05-22-2011 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rat
Clutching and grabbing makes boxing boring as ****.
Yeah, for the most part. The way Hopkins does it though, nope. He's a master at fighting inside. Always so genius inside the ring, which is mind boggling because outside of the ring hes a moran.
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05-22-2011 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
I had it closer than most of you, with hopkins up 2 rounds.
Canadian bias?

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why does he need to find a way? hes obviously the best there is at that weight class. Pascal is way better than Dawson who doesnt have heart
Pascal is not better than Dawson. Pascal is really limited as a fighter.

Dawson is a great technical fighter whos very hard to outpoint. Before Chad had a completely "off" night against Pascal, not many would have seen Bernard as a fav in that matchup.

I think it will be very interesting. Not sure who i would favor, but it will be a tougher fight than B-hop had against Pascal im sure.

(with that said, i wasn't very impressed with Chad tonight either)
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05-22-2011 , 01:04 AM
pascal easily outpointed dawson... and it wasnt a matter of a stylistic fight either
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05-22-2011 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
pascal easily outpointed dawson... and it wasnt a matter of a stylistic fight either
i take it you would favor Pascal in a rematch?
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05-22-2011 , 01:09 AM
I didn't catch the post-fight interview because I was at the bar, but did Hopkins really say he wanted to fight Bute? Bute would destroy him.
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05-22-2011 , 01:10 AM
Dawson is a much tougher fight for BHop but nowhere near as dangerous. With Pascal, who is indeed very limited and gasses within the first 3 rounds even in a non action fight, BHop had to always be weary of his power. Dawson hasnt stopped anyone in 4 years, but it will be tough for an older Hopkins to deal with Dawson's speed and technical brilliance. BHop can rough him up inside and make it tough for Dawson to get off and can also take more risks to keep the pressure on Dawson without necessarily having to worry about getting caught during an exchange.
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05-22-2011 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rat
I didn't catch the post-fight interview because I was at the bar, but did Hopkins really say he wanted to fight Bute? Bute would destroy him.
these canadians.
I would never count hopkins out of any fight.

I guess Bute is the last man standing on the 2010 canadian boxing hypetrain.
Still have hopes for Lemieux but damn...

Ward vs Hopkins could be the ultimate headbutting contest.
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05-22-2011 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rat
I didn't catch the post-fight interview because I was at the bar, but did Hopkins really say he wanted to fight Bute? Bute would destroy him.
notsureifserious

Bute is the easiest fight BHop could take right now.
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05-22-2011 , 01:19 AM
wait wat?

i know you guys probly dont know bute but...

hes way better than pascal in everyway. hes possibly better than everyone in the super six
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05-22-2011 , 01:27 AM
^^^lol

Bute is unproven having fought absolutely nobody and never outside of montreal. Dude was pretty much roasted by Librado Andrade lol. His biggest wins are vs Andrade, Joppy, and Bikia. Sick resume! A grand total of zero wins vs top ten competition

But dont worry, Bute will dodge and duck the **** out of Hopkins and continue to fight the Brian Magees of the world. And Bute possibly isnt any better than any of the super six participants, they'd all trash him.

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05-22-2011 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
wait wat?

i know you guys probly dont know bute but...

hes way better than pascal in everyway. hes possibly better than everyone in the super six
I think Bute is alot better than Pascal. That don't mean Hopkins can't beat him. He for sure won't get destroyed.

How do you see the fight going? What will be butes keys to victory?
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05-22-2011 , 01:40 AM
I think Bute is highly thought of because of how he looks when he fights. I have high hopes for him, and like him as a fighter. Hypothetically, i think he beats Taylor, Abraham, Green. Hed probably beat Johnson too. Dirrell, Kessler and froch i'm unsure of. Andre Ward is super tough for anyone.

His resume is absolute garbage compared to some of the contestants in super6 tho. I never quite got how some people could say he was the #1 smw in the world. He might be, but i mean seriously. His best win is Sakio Bika.
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05-22-2011 , 01:40 AM
we shall see
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05-22-2011 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofcool
I think Bute is alot better than Pascal. That don't mean Hopkins can't beat him. He for sure won't get destroyed.

How do you see the fight going? What will be butes keys to victory?
Really tho? Better than Pascal? Pascal may be limited and has a lot of flaws but he is still a damn good fighter. Beating Chad Dawson is something Bute could never dream of doing. Also dont forget that Bute is a SMW while Pascal, Hop, Dawson are all campaigning at LHW. If Bute doesnt have the stones to fight a single top ten fighter in his own division, let alone any of the the super 6, why on earth would he ever fight the top guys in a heavier division? lol canadian bias ftw!

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05-22-2011 , 01:47 AM
I think he clearly outshines Pascal as a fighter. With that said, i don't think Pascal is as a great as people rate him.

B-hop is a career middleweight and Pascal only moved to lhw two years ago.
Bute has a very large frame, and i don't think the size would be an issue.

Cool fight though. I actually would prefer Hopkins vs Bute over a fight with Chad. Let Chad fight Pascal and beat him up.
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05-22-2011 , 01:47 AM
lets be honest, bute destroyed andrade for most of 23 rounds and he traded in one to please the fans and it almost cost him. (the 2nd fight was a joke)

hes been looking incredible and im sad the challengers arent being very interesting yet.

should change soon, cant wait for actual challenges
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05-22-2011 , 01:50 AM
ye a fight with Jean Paul Mendy isn't exactly thrilling.

Is bute being protected alá some eurostars or is he just screwed because hes with HBO and the rest of the talent at 168 is with showtime?
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05-22-2011 , 01:55 AM
i dont like who they picked as optional fights, but i think some of the last few guys he was actually obligated to fight?
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