And Devin Hester ran into a referee.

no not the entire range, b/c brees is much better than cutler. as far as defense goes the bears d played well last night but over the course of the season it has been at least as bad the saints d was in the previous few years

First, It's Matt Forte who bumped into the ref..not Hester.

Second, lol of course they would be better with Brandon Marshall than Devin Hester.

see i dont know if the bolded is true or not. the next point makes sense. his numbers are certainly inflated bc of brees. but that doesnt matter in comparison to other wr on his team.

So if Cutler continues to suck it's because he has no weapons. If he gets better it's because they got him some weapons. Must be nice for him to have his own skills completely absent from the discussion.

I'm like 98% sure it was Hester seeing as he was the intended receiver on the crossing route.

I thought Hester slipped running his route that caused the pick. Cutler was checking it down to Forte mid-field when he bumped in the ref. I could be wrong...

It was Hester, he just stopped and threw his hands up. He def. could have done a better job getting around the ref to the ball. Ridiculous move by the ref too.

Cutler definately was a big part of the loss to the 49ers last week.

He threw three picks in the first half of game 1 vs. the Packers. Cutler would have had the game winning drive if Nathan Vasher didn't get burnt at the end. He came through in the Steelers game to get the victory. They could have started the season 4-0.

The Bears defensive gave up 5 td's in a row to the Bengals and would have done the same against the Cardinals if it weren't for halftime. You can't put any blame on Cutler because they had no chances in those games.

That just leaves the Browns and Falcons game. He didn't look good against the Browns, but then again it was an easy W. I think he did okay in a close loss in Atlanta.

I guess what I'm trying to say is he hasn't been as bad as it looks on paper. We'll have to see how he responds with the Eagles and Vikings coming up.

its all 3. hester and forte both got cut off by refs on ints, and the hester slip

Well, I think Colston wouldn't be putting up much in the way of numbers if, say, JaMarcus Russell was his QB, but the other things I've mentioned-- size and strength, route running, and sure hands-- are observable and the sort of things that correlate well with being a successful receiver in any situation. He's basically the opposite of Troy Williamson.

Kyle Orrton

The funny part is where if you have Cutler he needs a good offensive line, a great #1 receiver, a quality running game, etc. This sounds shockingly like the arguments made for why Kyle Orton is succeeding. If Cutler were elite he would elevate those around him, all great QBs do this. He wouldn't be on pace to throw 32 interceptions.

except?

Sorry I meant 34 interceptions.

no, he just needs better than a bottom 5 OL

pace and williams might be giving the worst performance of any pair of tackles in the league right now

grunching. I used to think all the Bears QBs sucked, now I'm wondering if QBs just can't succeed under their system.

Okay, I don't disagree. These receivers and runners should be good enough. Hester is underrated here. Knox is a quality player. Bennett is a fine #3. Olsen is well above average. Forte is slightly above average as an all around weapon. An elite QB gets by with these players fine. McNabb played with an absolutely laughable supporting cast for near his entire career. Asking the Bears to surround him with elite playmakers immediately is ridiculous.

Offensive line, sure he needs this to be near average and it isn't.

But my main point is nobody would call Cutler a good QB without knowledge of his play with the Broncos. Everyone admits the Broncos have an elite offensive line and weapons in the receiving game. This is why Kyle Orton looks a lot better. Ok, fine. Agreed. None of you Cutler guys are saying the Broncos made him better than he actually is, double standard.

ya the skills positions are solid, and more importantly young, the bears are fine in this regard.

right now they just dont have anyone who can edge pass protect, and they dont have have any good run blockers

and yes obviously the broncos team made him better, are we not all agreeing that the broncos might actually be as good as assani thinks if the trade never happened?

bears recipe for off seasons success:
1)throw piles of money at Marcus McNeill, Jahri Evans and Brandon Marshall
2)profit

i doubt more than one of those guys will not be re-signed by their respective teams (and most likely none of them will be available)

a guy can hope :/ Marshall leaving doesn't seem unreasonable

Word from Denver is Marshall is likely to be re-signed.

Pat Bowlen said he was "Playing himself into a large contract".