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The problem with the NFL challenge system is that the refs blow far more calls than the number of challenges allow. Take the college system, put it in the NFL where you do have much better refs, and I think it works fine. Challenges are fun because we can laugh at how badly they're used, but I'd rather they get the game right.

yea seriuosly. anything like a turnover or td should be looked at by the people upstairs and changed if it is wrong. its pathetic when the officials blow an obvious turnover/ not turnover and the coach is out of challenges.

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12-29-2010 , 02:48 PM

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I think sometimes though it's the coaches own fault if they're out of challenges because they often waste them on stupid ****.

I like the current system because it's a good compromise that doesn't slow things down too much and it's pretty rare imo when a coach is out of challenges for a reason other than his own ineptitude.

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12-29-2010 , 03:04 PM

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college challenges are lightning fast compared to nfl.

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01-03-2011 , 12:15 AM

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Bump for worst 1st down given undeservedly (and shadily...) ever.

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01-03-2011 , 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Francis_MH

Bump for worst 1st down given undeservedly (and shadily...) ever.

Everything about that game sucked out loud and I do not begrudge the officials for wanting to belong.

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01-03-2011 , 12:53 AM

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Placeholder for riggage for the Stillers in five weeks.

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01-03-2011 , 12:54 AM

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Placeholder for riggage for the Stillers over the next five weeks.

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01-03-2011 , 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Francis_MH

Bump for worst 1st down given undeservedly (and shadily...) ever.

I'd contend that 3rd and 1 and 1st and 10 there are roughly equivalent in terms of win expectation. 3rd and 1 may have been a little better. It was a bad call but who gaf.

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01-03-2011 , 02:07 AM

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Rams weren't gonna do anything anyway their wrs were soooooo bad

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01-03-2011 , 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Francis_MH

Bump for worst 1st down given undeservedly (and shadily...) ever.

No worse than the Stillers getting almost exactly the same call a couple weeks ago. This one was definitely bad, tho.

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01-03-2011 , 12:51 PM

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It wasn't even a bad spot it was just horrible execution by the officials.

It looked like the refs spotting the ball had the spot correct as they ran in from the side but the ball was still lying where the runner reached out and placed it (about 1.5 yards past the correct spot) when the head ref ran up, looked at the ball, and signaled first down.

The ref whose job it is to actually place the ball down based on his spot should have immediately fixed the mistake but for some strange reason he didn't.

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01-03-2011 , 01:19 PM

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This does a decent job of covering the utter ineptitude of what happened on the play. Let's see if this crew does a game in the playoffs.

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10-10-2011 , 09:20 PM

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Dear lord.

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10-10-2011 , 09:30 PM

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And I thought last night was bad.

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10-11-2011 , 12:31 AM

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The officiating in the 1st qaurter of bears lions was the worst officiating ive ever seen for an entire quarter. The rest of the game was officiated a little better but not by much after the first quarter it had nowhere to go but up.

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10-11-2011 , 12:36 AM

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I thought there was only one call which was bad (the PF for hitting Cutler), those two teams were just trying to outdo one another with penalties tonight

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10-11-2011 , 02:23 AM

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This does a decent job of covering the utter ineptitude of what happened on the play. Let's see if this crew does a game in the playoffs.

the writer of this article confused right and left. how fitting

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10-11-2011 , 08:52 AM

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its not really their fault that the players didnt fully grasp the concept of a play starting when the ball is snapped

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10-11-2011 , 09:13 AM

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How a league that already has instant replay doesn't have a chip in the ball for spotting (and determining if it crossed the goalline) is beyound me anyways.

Surely there have to be small and robust enough chips that don't break on contact and don't change the way the ball flys.

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10-11-2011 , 01:08 PM

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and how exactly is this chip going to know when a runner is down and not include the the standard reach forward for an extra yard?

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10-11-2011 , 01:11 PM

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and how exactly is this chip going to know when a runner is down and not include the the standard reach forward for an extra yard?

Why does that matter?

Just put a small tag in each end of the ball, and allow for a graphic on instant replays. The Ref pauses the playback when he believes the runner is down, checks the overlay, spots the ball. ez game.

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10-11-2011 , 01:16 PM

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So you want a complicated system that is expensive, time consuming and not decidedly better than what they already have?

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10-11-2011 , 01:19 PM

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The idea of combining the advanced precision of a microchip locator with "the time the ref thinks he was down" is pretty lol.

If the ref has to go to the monitor anyway then there doesnt seem to be much value.

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10-11-2011 , 01:26 PM

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So you want a complicated system that is expensive, time consuming and not decidedly better than what they already have?

No, I'm saying it's not impossible or even really that difficult. Outfitting the footballs is probably the worst part. After that it's just a matter of the same overlay they'd use for a 1st down line and the ref being able to hit the pause button.

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The idea of combining the advanced precision of a microchip locator with "the time the ref thinks he was down" is pretty lol.

The refs make that call all the time, often times correctly, occasionally wrong. That's not going to change until we get the RoboRef 4000.

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If the ref has to go to the monitor anyway then there doesnt seem to be much value.

No, there probably isn't (even assuming it doesn't malfunction, which it will)