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Rafa is the GOAT, butnahhhhh or maybe?

View Poll Results: Who will end up as the GOAT

Roger Federer

374 68.12%

Rafa Nadal

96 17.49%

Novak Djokovic

62 11.29%

Andy Murray

6 1.09%

Pete Sampras

2 0.36%

Roy Emerson

0 0%

Bjorn Borg

2 0.36%

Roder Laver

2 0.36%

John McEnroe

3 0.55%

Bill Tilden

2 0.36%

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07-03-2011 , 11:06 PM

#501

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where exactly is the spanish government doping their athletes if not in their local teams? Or do spanish teams have special doping rooms where international players aren't allowed to enter? Obviously Real Madrid is only doping like 20% of the team while Barça is doping 100%, clear edge. Or maybe they do their doping once every couple of months when they're on the Spanish national team.

wtf is wrong with some of you

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07-03-2011 , 11:38 PM

#502

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci...to_doping_case

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On 5 July 2006, Fuentes was indignant that only cyclists had been named and said he also worked with tennis and football players.[52] On July 27, 2006, IAAF was assured by Spanish prosecutors that no track and field athletes were involved.[53] On September 23, 2006, former cyclist Jesús Manzano told reporters from France 3 that he had seen "well-known footballers" from La Liga visit the offices of Dr Fuentes.[54]

In May 2007 Sepp Blatter, president of FIFA, at a World Anti-Doping Agency meeting in Montreal, was reportedly interested in the contents "of the Puerto file". [55] Le Monde had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. These plans did not specifically name any players.[56]

ofc thats not mentioning the doping required to develop a player enough to be a viable candidate for the best teams, drawing from the largest population pool.

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07-04-2011 , 01:25 AM

#503

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I'm sure all the guys doping in the mlb and nfl are also supported by the US government

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07-04-2011 , 10:14 AM

#504

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Just read this thread today. My favorite part was the sub-argument based on comments like this from kevin and one other.

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Originally Posted by kevin21

Djokovic's worst surface by far is Grass, his game isn't really suited to it. Im pretty confident in saying he will never win a Wimbledon title.

after which yeti tells them that perhaps they're being hyperbolic, betting lines are exchanged, blah blah.

it's just funny how some people are so 'confident' in making such absolute statements.

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07-04-2011 , 10:21 AM

#505

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I'd love to be right about everything in life but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. I dunno maybe you are somehow different to the rest of us.

Novak proved me wrong.

Not the first time I've been wrong, it sure as hell won't be the last.

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07-04-2011 , 10:32 AM

#506

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I didn't think Novak would win WImbledon either. I thought it was Fed's year to reclaim the title. Several things occured to prove me wrong notably Novak continuing to beast despite it being his worst surface. He played the best tennis the last week.

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07-04-2011 , 10:33 AM

#507

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The evidence regarding Spain, other countries are no different. Look at China. Look at USA track and field. Look at Australia in the swimming pool. etc etc.

In football, there is doping going on all over, Italy is known to be rife with it.

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07-04-2011 , 12:26 PM

#508

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Seems like the bigger issue with that prediction is that Federer couldn't beat Tsonga.

I do think Djokovic having this monster year is a very bad sign for Nadal's chances of catching Federer.

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07-04-2011 , 01:18 PM

#509

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leave victor to turn this in to a doping conversation

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09-10-2011 , 05:23 PM

#510

The Rat

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Bump for epic choke

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09-10-2011 , 06:13 PM

#511

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FEDs a better player but a headcase in tight matches. Shame.

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09-10-2011 , 06:27 PM

#512

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might need a title change

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09-10-2011 , 06:39 PM

#513

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Novak was down 3-5 in the 5th set with Fed serving two match points (40-15) and Novak jus smiled at him and won the next 4 games

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09-10-2011 , 06:43 PM

#514

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One great year gets you into the GOAT discussion huh? The things you learn on here.

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09-10-2011 , 06:51 PM

#515

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Feds early Major finals opponents: Mark Phillipoussis, semis to Andy Roddick, Safin, Roddick, Hewitt, Roddick, 40 year old Agassi, Baghdatis, teenager Nadal, Roddick, Fernando Gonzalez.

If Nadal can win another 3-5 hes def the greatest of all time.

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09-10-2011 , 06:51 PM

#516

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Wasn't aware this was his first great year

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09-10-2011 , 06:52 PM

#517

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2 Aussie Opens
0 French Opens (not even a final appearance)
1 Wimbledon Title
0 US Opens (lost in the final a couple of times)

Yeah, he's right up there.

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09-10-2011 , 07:01 PM

#518

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Wasn't aware this was his first great year

What other year was a great year for him then?

This is the first year he's had a better year than anyone else, every other year previous he's been eclipsed by Rafa or fed or both.

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09-10-2011 , 07:37 PM

#519

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Lol Phillipoussis, one of the Aussie greats! Look up the article of him bankrupt, and owing tons on his mortgage.

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09-10-2011 , 07:37 PM

#520

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Edit Djokovic into thread title please

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09-10-2011 , 08:03 PM

#521

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Originally Posted by ut2010

FEDs a better player but a headcase in tight matches. Shame.

No he's not, he's a slightly worse player who failed in some really big moments. Novak is the GOAT and the biggest non-choker maybe in the history of sports.

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09-10-2011 , 08:05 PM

#522

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Originally Posted by kevin21

One great year gets you into the GOAT discussion huh? The things you learn on here.

I mean, have you been watching him play? It's not like you could just dismiss it as a lucky year or something. The guy has played like no person I've ever seen before. That's enough for me to call him a GOAT. I don't know why he has to do it for 3 years or something. What's the difference?

EDIT: It's also not like he came out of nowhere. He was recognized as very, very good for the last few years now.

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09-10-2011 , 08:08 PM

#523

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Originally Posted by ut2010

Nadal is a huge dog for 3-5 more. His body is falling apart. Good point about how horrible Federer's competition was while he was dominant though.

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Originally Posted by kevin21

2 Aussie Opens
0 French Opens (not even a final appearance)
1 Wimbledon Title
0 US Opens (lost in the final a couple of times)

Yeah, he's right up there.

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