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Rafa is the GOAT, butnahhhhh or maybe?

View Poll Results: Who will end up as the GOAT

Roger Federer

374 68.12%

Rafa Nadal

96 17.49%

Novak Djokovic

62 11.29%

Andy Murray

6 1.09%

Pete Sampras

2 0.36%

Roy Emerson

0 0%

Bjorn Borg

2 0.36%

Roder Laver

2 0.36%

John McEnroe

3 0.55%

Bill Tilden

2 0.36%

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06-05-2011 , 12:09 PM

#226

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Originally Posted by The Rat

Confirmed GOAT after today.

for winning the french open again? i think he needs a few more non-french titles to have this discussion

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06-05-2011 , 01:05 PM

#227

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I said sometime last year that Rafa would win the French and Wimbledon for the next 3 years.

That's 1/6

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06-05-2011 , 01:12 PM

#228

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I fancy Fed for Wimbledon now. Gotta go out with 1 more.

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06-05-2011 , 01:40 PM

#229

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I just hope they are on the opposite sides of the draw.

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06-05-2011 , 02:23 PM

#230

OrganicGreen

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****.. if i was a sports gambling baller i would had bet the whole roll on nadal like every other sports gambling baller would of

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06-05-2011 , 03:09 PM

#231

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Originally Posted by kevin21

I said sometime last year that Rafa would win the French and Wimbledon for the next 3 years.

That's 1/6

Bet Djokovic gets at least one of these

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06-05-2011 , 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by derwipok

Aussie - Djokovic
French - Nadal
Wimbledon - Federer
US Open - Federer

Seems about right. Nadal should be the favorite at Wimbledon though.

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06-05-2011 , 03:25 PM

#233

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Originally Posted by ut2010

Bet Djokovic gets at least one of these

Well he only has 2 more French to go at.

Spoiler:

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06-05-2011 , 03:31 PM

#234

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er, wat?

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06-05-2011 , 03:34 PM

#235

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Djokovic's worst surface by far is Grass, his game isn't really suited to it. Im pretty confident in saying he will never win a Wimbledon title.

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06-05-2011 , 03:35 PM

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care to wager?

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06-05-2011 , 03:39 PM

#237

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rafa wont be goat. He has no solution against djoko. Maybe 2 or 3 majors top imo(mainly RG). Roger has still a couple of shots at wim/US/AO.
Djoko will rule for like a year or two on hard court and then players like del potro will rise and rule the circuit

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06-05-2011 , 03:40 PM

#238

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Im not really interested in a 7-8 year bet tbh

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06-05-2011 , 03:49 PM

#239

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Originally Posted by kevin21

Im not really interested in a 7-8 year bet tbh

You could give him 5 to 1 on this year's Wimbledon.

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06-05-2011 , 03:52 PM

#240

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or he could just say 'you know what, i shot my mouth off without thinking, i would like to retract my statement'

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06-05-2011 , 03:54 PM

#241

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Djoko won't rule anything imo. He will never come close to doing what Roger or Nadal have done in terms of dominance. He may well take the number 1 spot come years end but seriously would anyone be that surprised if he won 0/4 of the next GS's?

Djokovic is unlikely to win wimbledon imo. I seriously think Murray is more likely to win it than him, I will lay him all day happily. Nadal Federer final again I can imagine. Unless Murray wants to finally have the mental game to go with his talent.

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06-05-2011 , 03:56 PM

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Grunch: How the **** are people voting Federer when Nadal is already better wrt the stats on the first page? Nadal is also 4 years younger than Federer.

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06-05-2011 , 03:57 PM

#243

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Yeti,

Without thinking? I've said this multiple times in multiple tennis threads about Djokovic regarding Wimbledon. Have you watched him on grass?

I need to make a bet for my statement to have any meaning? Give me a break.

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06-05-2011 , 04:00 PM

#244

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his odds appear to be at least 21% according to betfair to win it this year alone, so definitively stating that he will never win a wimbledon title is a somewhat bizarre statement, don't you think?

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06-05-2011 , 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT

Grunch: How the **** are people voting Federer when Nadal is already better wrt the stats on the first page? Nadal is also 4 years younger than Federer.

These stats compare both at the same age.
Currently, it is 16 Grand Slam wins for Federer vs. 10 for Nadal, so until Nadal overtakes him there, I don't see a reason why Federer shouldn't be the GOAT.

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06-05-2011 , 04:03 PM

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Yeti-It would not at all be surprising if he never wins Wimbledon. I would certainly happily bet against him winning a career GS.

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06-05-2011 , 04:06 PM

#247

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Originally Posted by Yeti

his odds appear to be at least 21% according to betfair to win it this year alone, so definitively stating that he will never win a wimbledon title is a somewhat bizarre statement, don't you think?

kevin is right about djok on grass for most part, although "won't ever win it" is pretty awful thing to say. he's def >0% to do that by a big amount, but it's his worst major and i'd prob book against pinny line vig free if you were interested

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06-05-2011 , 04:07 PM

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Nadal leads Federer 17-8 in matches against each other. Albeit, many of those on clay where Nadal is no doubt GOAT on that surface. Federer also going to have more GS just because he didn't have a dominant Nadal to compete with for a few years (2003-2005 and he got 6 during those years).

If Nadal can at least be .500 against Federer on grass with a comparable amount of matches to the # of clay matches they played, then no doubt in my mind Nadal is GOAT.

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06-05-2011 , 04:07 PM

#249

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Originally Posted by Yeti

his odds appear to be at least 21% according to betfair to win it this year alone, so definitively stating that he will never win a wimbledon title is a somewhat bizarre statement, don't you think?

No, because Im factoring in what I have seen of Djokovic on grass, he looks so uncomfortable out there. It's not like im just totally pulling this out of my ass. The low skiddy bounce seems to give him so much trouble. The only thing in his favour is that the grass courts seem to be getting slower each year. I'd make Rafa and Roger pretty big favourites over him right now and I'd even go as far to say Murray would be a slight favourite against him.

It's just my opinion, it's not the gospel.

He is 3/1 on Betfair right now, I'd happily lay that.

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06-05-2011 , 04:11 PM

#250

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If someone said Murray will never win a Grand Slam no one would think it an absurd statement really. Saying Djokovic will never win Wimbledon is about on a par with that statement.

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