Hes gonna win #21 and Calendar Slam at same moment and then even his biggest haters will have to bow at his feet and admit the truth

I don't like Novak much, but at this point it's tough to argue he's not the legit GOAT.

Change the thread title already. Novax done did it.

yep, this

Can someone give me some cliffs on this match?

I woke up just as Djoker was about to win the 3rd set. Watching the rest of it I was wondering how the **** Tsitsipas managed to win 2 sets. Even Tsitsipas seemed to know he knew he had no chance and he was 2-1 up.

Did he get hurt or something? I did see a trainer working on him. If they said something I didn't hear it. Had volume off and was just watching it in the background.

To be fair he played well, first two sets then his level dropped and Novax just steam rolled him.

The first set he got set point on break point and made an arse of it then got broken at that point i thought it was over. He then just went up a gear. Broke back. The sun was annoying Novax.

2nd set he got an early break, then got a double break and the second set was over.

He feel early doors but it didn't seem to effect him that much, Novax changed and started going down the line a bit more.

He almost blew a 2 sets lead to Zverev on Friday as well.

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20-20-19... It's going to be relatively easy for him now as he's facing much weaker players in finals.

Ya much weaker than mark phillipousis or marcos Baghdatis or Kevin Anderson or Mariano Puerta

Who'd a thunk Djoke was gonna take this thing? Not me. Didn't think he had the mind or would have the endurance/commitment for it way back when. The double career slam, owns Fed heads up in majors, looks a great bet to end with the most slams, most money won, slight edge over Rafa all matches and slams. It's over and Fed lost???? Good god! Not totally of course Fed could still win more.

Also another point in Novak's favour that doesn't get talked about much is that out of every final in his career the crowd has been cheering against him whereas for Fed/Rafa unless they play each other it's pretty much always been in their favour or at least neutral.

In any other sport winning when the crowd is against you i.e away from home is considered harder and more of an achievement - I don't see why it shouldn't add a little extra to Novak's resume.

If the sport of Tennis ended today, I'd have Djokovic as GOAT now after this win. 2 of each Slam, most weeks at #1 and a much higher average level of opponent - He's beaten Fed and Nadal 18 times in Grand Slams, which is pretty insane given he's only won 19 (though obviously he didn't go on to win every slam in which he beat one of them) - is worth more to me the one slam he's behind in total. The fact that he's a huge favourite to add a fair few more is just gravy.

Nadal would have to somehow outperform him from here on out, which seems super unlikely.

And speaking of tough competition lol, Rafa has beaten Fed and Djokovic 20 times at Grand Slam level. That's once per win haha

I would not rule out Nadal for another major and possibly be in GOAT conversation, but Novak's win this week did more to assure his GOATness than any other.

Didn't even realize it was that bad with the crowd. Sure hope it's triple dead heat at 20 by the end of the summer. Should be already but that DQ on Djoker.

nova the master hes the goat change title named fed is also a goat nadal is a goat too and i am a goat

think the crowd seeing him as the villain fuels VAK

Yeah Novak looks like a secretely sadist individual who probably loves it when the crowd is cheering against him.

He'll get super mad for losing a random point in the first set of the 3rd round but will put out a smirk if he's down matchballs as he kills you on the return

+1 million

I'd be shocked if Rafa did not get to 21, I'd say he's more likely than not to get to 22. But I don't see any chance that Djokovic does not eventually top the leaderboard.

yep hopefully they are not ******ed and put him and Novak on opposite sides of the draw next year. i would think Nadal should still be co-favorites with Novak at the very worst, its hard to see anybody else in the field beating either of them, this year would have been the perfect opportunity after the 5 hour semifinal match and Novak was still able to come back from down 0-2 in the final pretty easily.

Beating Nadal at Roland Garros for the double career slam is pretty huge. I think the only way Nadal can overcome it is if he beat Novak at the Australian Open for his own double career slam. Interesting to note that the betting markets give Novak ~20% chance to win the next two to give him a calendar slam which would pretty much cement his GOAT status.

The crazy thing about Nadal is he was pretty much the 2nd best player for 2 consecutive eras, because the 2 other GOAT's had peaks that were better than his.

IF Fed was the best player 2004-2011 era, and Novak was the best player for the 2012-202? era (a longer and tougher era and thus Novak GOAT), then Nadal was the 2nd best player (unquestionably) for both of those eras.

He was also both Fed's greatest rival, and Novak's greatest rival, which is unique to him.

I really hope Nadal's career still has some decent fight left in it. If Novak takes 2 of the next 3 slams, and Nadal takes the French next year, that would put them tied at 21. I'd like to see a bit of continued batting at the top.

Yeah Federer third in total slams would be fine for me.

Yeah this is a good point, although the only real challenger for Roger was Rafa and the same can be said for Novax.

Sir Andy had he not got injured once he got to number 1 would have been interesting as he would have been the bigger rival on hard/grass for Novax - even if he did lose about 8 AO finals to him. Stan was always a danger as well once he hit 30 odd. Del Po/Söderling could have been that man as well in those times.

The annoying thing is, the that those are all over 30 and been at the top for well over a decade and there hasn't been a single player whose stepped up in that period.

Thiem, we seen get involved in a couple of finals then won one but hasn't done anything this year. Medv could be the guy if he can get a bit more consistency, I suspect he'll be targeting the US.

Tennis is going to be really bad in a few years.

There game should in theory get to a higher and higher level each and every year just due to the nature of modern sports science but we will see.

Nadal withdraws from Wimbledon and Olympics #oldknees

20 for Djoko it is, no real competition left on grass for him

the ball girls are his biggest challenger now

Nadal has probably 10% chance in U.S. Open, < 2% at Wimbledon, so it makes sense to skip it.

the Greece guy gonna have 25 majors hes only 22 atm