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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
but the point is that there are check marks on that check mark (nadal didn't make as many grass qtr/semi/finals as #2+ in the world so he didn't face fed nearly as often on that meanwhile, fed was the #3-4 clay court player ever and faced nadal all the time on his best surface).
if you're gunna say that the head to head is a check mark in the nadal column, you also have to say that the bias of surfaces in the head to head is a check mark in the fed column.
Agreed.
I dug into it a little, and you can see:
1) Of the 151 times Fed/Nadal showed up to play the same tournament, they have met 37 times, meaning they didn't meet 114 times
2) That 114 is broken into 57/45/12 for Nadal Fault/Federer Fault/Both
3) 37/22 outdoor hard really stands out imo; despite the 8-5 Nadal lead in H2H, you can clearly see they should have met more if not for Nadal bowing out early on the regular
4) Most importantly imo, Federer won ~10% more matches than Nadal. Thats a lot.