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Old 12-15-2009, 12:07 AM   #4876
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Re: Professional Wrestling Promotion Draft

I've mentioned this before ITT, but one thing I really hate is how little the IC belt means now. It used to be so huge. The matches were almost always better than the championship matches and it was the 2nd most important belt in the industry for some time.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:08 AM   #4877
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a heel turn used to be so epic back then

when paul orndorff turned heel, kids actually cried
Nothing beats the fan at Bash of the Beach coming in the ring to fight Hogan after his heel turn.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:10 AM   #4878
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No belt in WWE means anything. 17 World Title (WWE + WHC) switches in one year kills off any significance.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:10 AM   #4879
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I've mentioned this before ITT, but one thing I really hate is how little the IC belt means now. It used to be so huge. The matches were almost always better than the championship matches and it was the 2nd most important belt in the industry for some time.
QFT.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:14 AM   #4880
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Wait, there's two "world titles" now? That's shameful
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:16 AM   #4881
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Re: Professional Wrestling Promotion Draft

Man I suck for just finding this thread...spent the last 90 minutes skimming through it.

Are rosters finalized? Because there were a few guys I was surprised never went, and would like to chime in. Thx.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:16 AM   #4882
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Draft is done, comment away.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:20 AM   #4883
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Wait, there's two "world titles" now? That's shameful
There has been since I think late 2002. It's ******ed and one of the many reasons I stopped watching.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:21 AM   #4884
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Three if you want to count the ECW belt, so in reality, two.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:31 AM   #4885
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I don't understand why the WWE doesn't go to an NWA-style "world champ" with its brands ... have one world champ defend that belt on all three shows periodically. Then have the champion of each brand, and maybe one secondary belt in each brand. That would work better.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:38 AM   #4886
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Nothing beats the fan at Bash of the Beach coming in the ring to fight Hogan after his heel turn.
Did every Nitro back then end with garbage and beer pelting the ring? That was so awesome.

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Three if you want to count the ECW belt, so in reality, two.
WWE doesn't even count it as a world title since they had their title shot battle royale with only people who've never won a world title with former (WW)ECW champs in it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:42 AM   #4887
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Re: Professional Wrestling Promotion Draft

I think the US Title has meant something this year. It's changed hands 3 times, and has definitely elevated Kofi Kingston and Miz. Christian has held the ECW title for 183 days this year, and hopefully gets a shot at a bigger belt when he leaves ECW.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:12 AM   #4888
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No belt in WWE means anything. 17 World Title (WWE + WHC) switches in one year kills off any significance.
Yep. It's WCW all over again.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:22 AM   #4889
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Would wrestling be better w/o all the internet dirtsheets? Maybe they wouldn't do all these ******ed title changes/swerves if it weren't for everything getting leaked.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:36 AM   #4890
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Good question. Very possible.

Frankly, WWE/TNA/ROH/whoever should pay no attention to the dirt sheets. So what if some people "know" what will happen. If you tell the story believably and with passion, no one's gonna sit there and say, "Meh, I knew the ending anyway." They're gonna say, "I knew the ending, but man, it was still ****ing awesome!"
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:44 AM   #4891
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I just relive the WWE through youtube anymore.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:14 AM   #4892
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well, if nobody objects, I can make the official 'write-up/judging' thread. just let me know.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:15 AM   #4893
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Go for it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:47 AM   #4894
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Go for it.
and... done.
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:24 AM   #4895
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Someone posted an NWA world title defenses link earlier in the thread, I assume you could do a search for it.
Here you go.

The Records of N.W.A. World Heaveyweight Championship Matches
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:37 AM   #4896
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Re: Professional Wrestling Promotion Draft

OK, some guys I was surprised to see passed over:

Hercules Hernandez and Billy Jack Haynes. They had a big feud leading up to Wrestlemania III over "who had the best full nelson." Haynes nearly defeated the Macho Man for the Intercontinental Title (if it weren't for the efforts of referee turned heel Danny Davis) and Hercules won an important Battle Royal on Saturday Night's Main Event which featured Hogan and Andre prior to Wrestlemania III.






Who can't forget two of the greatest jobbers of all time?

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Also, the "original gangster" New Jack merits consideration
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:34 AM   #4897
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Wow Hercules Is a big omission
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:38 PM   #4898
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I mean there's too many variables for timewarps and I don't know how to properly do it.

Could Ray Stevens wrestle the schedule used today without getting injured? I mean, a lot of the old wrestlers have longevity because they weren't wrestling 300+ nights a year and using a more high-impact style that's seen today.

That being said, would CM Punk have the same appeal if he wrestled in 1970? This is virtually a theoretical mind****.
As posted earlier in this thread, the theory that "old-timers" didn't wrestle as often as they do today is a myth. The headliners wrestled 300+ times a year back in the 70s and 80s and today's WWE stars don't wrestle anywhere close to 300 times per year.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:41 PM   #4899
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There has been since I think late 2002. It's ******ed and one of the many reasons I stopped watching.
True story: I stopped watching WWE the day they gave that second belt to HHH. That was the last episode of Raw/Smackdown that I watched in full.
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