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11-28-2009 , 11:04 AM
Without watching the link(hate this work computer) is this the Katie vick angle?
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11-28-2009 , 11:29 AM
Yeah that entire HHH title reign was abismal
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11-28-2009 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXRdZ46SHx4

Sigh, they used to have such sick story lines back then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYcCDx2PyoM
That was the only non-house show I've ever been to. Didn't have great seats though (about half way up on the right side of the ring, and since the grave was by the ramp....)
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11-28-2009 , 12:47 PM
Haven't been able to talk to Lurchy as I've been busy as **** with my brother's wedding, but I guess I'll go ahead and make a pick for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfS36sgIIL4

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Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase, Jr. Going a bit young here but I like Dibiase's potential and though Rhodes isn't as sharp as I'd like in the ring, he'll work.


Roster so far:
Vince McMahon
Goldberg
John Bradshaw Layfield
Big Show
Kerry Von Erich
Rick Martel
Shane McMahon
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase, Jr.
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11-28-2009 , 12:52 PM
stars of the future, both have the family name to fall back on, and sone mainstream stuff with ted (marine 2).

good pick imo.
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11-28-2009 , 01:06 PM
TBH I'm not sold on Rhodes at all, but Ted I think is destined for big things, and will probably eclipse his dad in terms of success.
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11-28-2009 , 01:13 PM
I dont think you can compare generations. Ted Sr would have def been a multi time World Champ and perennial main eventer now
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11-28-2009 , 01:32 PM
I like Ted Jr., but likely to surpass his dad he is not. He has a chance of course. Was hoping to grab him near the end, but I think they're both significant reaches here. Two guys that debuted in 2006? They've received as major a push as you can without going the Lesnar/Batista/Goldberg route, highlighting a bunch of major PPV matches against DX.

Ted Sr.'s main event prime in the WWF was from 1986-1991, during a time period where the WWE title went like this:

Hogan 4 Reigns ~1000 Days
Savage 1 Reign 371 Days
Warrior 1 Reign 293 Days
Sgt. Slaughter 1 Reign 64 Days
Undertaker 1 Reign 6 Days
Andre 1 Reign 0 Days

Six champions and nine reigns. Only guy that stands out is Sgt. Slaughter, The Great Khali of his day I suppose.

Compare that to the last six years, a time period where WWE's World Titles have reached Lesnar, Guerrero, JBL, Cena, Edge, Van Dam, Orton, Triple H, Hardy, Batista, Benoit, Kurt Angle, Rey Mysterio, King Booker, Undertaker, Khali, Punk, Jericho for a combined 18 different champions and 53 reigns.

Last edited by Scary_Tiger; 11-28-2009 at 02:01 PM.
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11-28-2009 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
I like Ted Jr., but likely to surpass his dad he is not. He has a chance of course. Was hoping to grab him near the end, but I think they're both significant reaches here. Two guys that debuted in 2006? They've received as major a push as you can without going the Lesnar/Batista/Goldberg route, highlighting a bunch of major PPV matches against DX.
While I agree that the picks look like a slight reach, showing the ability to receive a major push is a good thing, not a knock agianst.
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11-28-2009 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
While I agree that the picks look like a slight reach, showing the ability to receive a major push is a good thing, not a knock agianst.
It wasn't a knock. The knock was two guys that debuted in 2006? That they've been pushed to the moon and gotten over is a good thing I agree. I wasn't trying to bury the picks, just show some skepticism at them going this early.
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11-28-2009 , 03:11 PM
There's not a whole lot out there right now better than TD Jr. IMO.

EDIT: At least not from the 90s on.
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11-28-2009 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ajohnson16
Haven't been able to talk to Lurchy as I've been busy as **** with my brother's wedding, but I guess I'll go ahead and make a pick for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfS36sgIIL4

Spoiler:
Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase, Jr. Going a bit young here but I like Dibiase's potential and though Rhodes isn't as sharp as I'd like in the ring, he'll work.


Roster so far:
Vince McMahon
Goldberg
John Bradshaw Layfield
Big Show
Kerry Von Erich
Rick Martel
Shane McMahon
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase, Jr.

Yikes, this roster needs some uber-babyfaces fast
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11-28-2009 , 03:58 PM
Goldberg and Kerry are faces. You're not going to find "uber-faces" at this point. It's a lot harder to find good faces than good heels.
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11-28-2009 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
I like Ted Jr., but likely to surpass his dad he is not. He has a chance of course. Was hoping to grab him near the end, but I think they're both significant reaches here. Two guys that debuted in 2006? They've received as major a push as you can without going the Lesnar/Batista/Goldberg route, highlighting a bunch of major PPV matches against DX.

Ted Sr.'s main event prime in the WWF was from 1986-1991, during a time period where the WWE title went like this:

Hogan 4 Reigns ~1000 Days
Savage 1 Reign 371 Days
Warrior 1 Reign 293 Days
Sgt. Slaughter 1 Reign 64 Days
Undertaker 1 Reign 6 Days
Andre 1 Reign 0 Days

Six champions and nine reigns. Only guy that stands out is Sgt. Slaughter, The Great Khali of his day I suppose.

Compare that to the last six years, a time period where WWE's World Titles have reached Lesnar, Guerrero, JBL, Cena, Edge, Van Dam, Orton, Triple H, Hardy, Batista, Benoit, Kurt Angle, Rey Mysterio, King Booker, Undertaker, Khali, Punk, Jericho for a combined 18 different champions and 53 reigns.

Great point, the belt just didn't change hands often back in the day. I could remember the sequence listed above. Hogan, controversial loss to Andre, Andre stripped of the title(by selling it), Macho Man wins 4 matches at wrestlemania IV tournament with a finals victory over Dibiase. Hogan beat Savage at Wrestlemania V, Warrior beats Hogan Wresltemania VI, Slaughter beats Warrior at the Rumble, Hogan over Slaughter Wrestlemania VII.

I mean that just recaps like 3.5 years right there, its too hard to remember the exact sequence over the last 3.5 years.
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11-28-2009 , 05:55 PM
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Great point, the belt just didn't change hands often back in the day. I could remember the sequence listed above. Hogan, controversial loss to Andre, Andre stripped of the title(by selling it), Macho Man wins 4 matches at wrestlemania IV tournament with a finals victory over Dibiase. Hogan beat Savage at Wrestlemania V, Warrior beats Hogan Wresltemania VI, Slaughter beats Warrior at the Rumble, Hogan over Slaughter Wrestlemania VII.

I mean that just recaps like 3.5 years right there, its too hard to remember the exact sequence over the last 3.5 years.
The main belt alone changed 3 times in 3 PPVs this year.
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11-28-2009 , 06:08 PM
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Compare that to the last six years, a time period where WWE's World Titles have reached Lesnar, Guerrero, JBL, Cena, Edge, Van Dam, Orton, Triple H, Hardy, Batista, Benoit, Kurt Angle, Rey Mysterio, King Booker, Undertaker, Khali, Punk, Jericho for a combined 18 different champions and 53 reigns.
This is over two belts though right? (Not saying it isnt excessive anyway)
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11-28-2009 , 06:30 PM
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This is over two belts though right? (Not saying it isnt excessive anyway)
Well even if you tack on the IC title, the number of different WWF Champions from WM2 - WM VII was 10 (Hogan/Andre/Savage (IC + World)/Warrior (IC + World)/Slaughter/Steamboat (IC only)/Honky/Rude/Perfect/Tornado).
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11-28-2009 , 06:44 PM
The IC belt used to be such a big deal. I miss those days
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11-28-2009 , 07:03 PM
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The IC belt used to be such a big deal. I miss those days
qft
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11-28-2009 , 08:40 PM
we need to start enforcing the clock or else this entire draft is going to stall imo
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11-28-2009 , 09:02 PM
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qft
+1
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11-28-2009 , 09:28 PM
Where we at in this? In my car on way home ffom my cottage which doesnt have internet access, havent been able to check the thread since thursday morning
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11-28-2009 , 10:16 PM
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Where we at in this? In my car on way home ffom my cottage which doesnt have internet access, havent been able to check the thread since thursday morning

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assani, I feel this weekend is one where the time rules should be a bit more lax due to the large likelyhood of people traveling.
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11-28-2009 , 10:28 PM
Aight will do my writeups as soon as i get out of this car and get on my CPU
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11-28-2009 , 11:02 PM
yea this weekend imo is tough for a lot of people. Same probably for christmas weekend (if draft is still going, unlikely but possible)
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