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Originally Posted by bundy5
Vingegaard and Roglic announced as co-leaders of Jumbo for the Vuelta. This has to be the ultimate flex right for Vingegaard and I honestly can't see Roglic beating him despite how unusual it is for a GC TdF contender to turn back up for the Vuelta.
I don't think it's very unlikely, doing the Tour + Vuelta double GC is very difficult, Roglic has had the much better preparation, and Vingegaard is a huge questionmark, last year he was completely cooked for the rest of the season after the Tour win, but obviously if he's near his best he should be better than Roglic. I can't imagine he's at his best, however, given he can't have had much more than 2-3 weeks of preparation considering he needed time to relax after the Tour. It depends on whether he can still carry some of the form from the Tour, but that seems unlikely to last for this long + another three weeks from now. But he recovers like nobody else so who knows. For the team's winning chances having two captains is a big advantage, though, so it's preferable for both of them if they're both good.
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Originally Posted by mw828
It kind of makes sense for him in the sense that he has barely raced this year. He doesn't really seem to go for anything except TdF. If not for Remco, he'd probably win easily. He still might though.
I heard that Vingegaard is actually the defending Tour winner with the most wins in the spring season in many years (though that's mostly because he dominated most of the few races he did). However, given that it has allegedly been the plan for him to do the Tour - Vuelta double since late last year, it makes sense to have had a sparse spring program.
Many great GC riders focused more or less on the Grand Tours only. Vingegaard is tailored for these races, whereas both Evenepoel and Pogacar are far better all-rounders and can win virtually any race. But they are the exceptions to the rule, Vingegaard's race calendar is much more similar to that of "traditional" GC guys like Froome or Contador (who, similar to Vingegaard, were the clearly strongest GC rider at their peak).
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
Don't think Remco is going to be on the level of those 2 especially after he did a few classics and put a lot of focus on the WC. Plus he's going to lose time in the TTT
It's definitely easier to do both WC and Vuelta than the Tour + Vuelta double, and the classics were a long time ago. All else equal, Evenepoel has had a better preparation than Vingegaard, whilst Roglic in theory should've had the best of the three.
Ayuso will also be very interesting to follow, and maybe Geraint Thomas can (once again) set the doubters straight.