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06-01-2021 , 01:32 PM
Man Froome looks like complete ass in the Dauphine.
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06-02-2021 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Man Froome looks like complete ass in the Dauphine.
Just like in every other race since the injury.

Wonder if ISN are regretting ponying up the money him yet
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06-03-2021 , 02:59 PM
lol at a hairpin bend 1km from the finish
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06-04-2021 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ledders
lol at a hairpin bend 1km from the finish
Quite a manuever by Geraint Thomas to launch off it. But yeah, lol.
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06-05-2021 , 08:14 AM
Turned on the TV and somehow they're in the final climb at 2PM.. strange

Did anybody figure out how Astana managed to place 2 decent but not great riders ahead of the best TT'ers? Was it one of those nibala sticky bottle kind of situations
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06-07-2021 , 04:25 AM
Can we finally confirm that Porte is a TdF contender again?
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06-07-2021 , 09:17 PM
Unbelievable rides by Padun, to go back to back as a relative unknown is very cool.

Porte will be around if Ineos needs him to step up as team leader but isn't everyone in the world (including Porte) on record saying he signed to be a super domestique?
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06-08-2021 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Unbelievable rides by Padun, to go back to back as a relative unknown is very cool.

Porte will be around if Ineos needs him to step up as team leader but isn't everyone in the world (including Porte) on record saying he signed to be a super domestique?
I'm pretty sure he's flying under the radar like he used to when he rode for Froome but top teams now from my understanding need a back-up option should the main team leader retire with how much is at stake.
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06-08-2021 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
I'm pretty sure he's flying under the radar like he used to when he rode for Froome but top teams now from my understanding need a back-up option should the main team leader retire with how much is at stake.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...uphine-victory

Never say never, but even if Thomas cracks Ineos will have two other grand tour winners riding in Carapaz and Geoghan Hart. I'd put Porte 4th in line but of course have zero actual information and it will depend on who's in form.
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06-08-2021 , 10:19 AM
I think Porte is going into the Tour as 3rd in the pecking order but I also don't think they'd have any problem riding for him if he turns out to be the strongest. I fully expect Hart to be a domestique and I'd be very surprised if he manages to ride himself into a leadership position for the Tour.
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06-08-2021 , 10:34 AM
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I think Porte is going into the Tour as 3rd in the pecking order but I also don't think they'd have any problem riding for him if he turns out to be the strongest.
It's always fun to watch teams try to decide whether to give up on supporting their pre-race leader and race for some other team member -- sometimes it works and sometimes it blows up spectacularly. I think that Ineos sending so many GC contenders might be the biggest story of the race. Too many chiefs, not enough worker bees?

If Porte and Geoghegan Hart are more or less level (and Thomas and Carapaz are out of it) I wouldn't be at all surprised if the team goes Hart -- British rider, Grand tour winner, a decade younger. But again, pure speculation.
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06-08-2021 , 01:03 PM
Worst thing that could happen at the tour is for Ineos to take the yellow jersey early, look at that ridiculous team
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06-08-2021 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
It's always fun to watch teams try to decide whether to give up on supporting their pre-race leader and race for some other team member -- sometimes it works and sometimes it blows up spectacularly. I think that Ineos sending so many GC contenders might be the biggest story of the race. Too many chiefs, not enough worker bees?

If Porte and Geoghegan Hart are more or less level (and Thomas and Carapaz are out of it) I wouldn't be at all surprised if the team goes Hart -- British rider, Grand tour winner, a decade younger. But again, pure speculation.
Yeah sure if they're about even, I just think that despite his Giro win last year Hart is currently a step below Thomas, Carapaz and Porte.
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06-08-2021 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...uphine-victory



Never say never, but even if Thomas cracks Ineos will have two other grand tour winners riding in Carapaz and Geoghan Hart. I'd put Porte 4th in line but of course have zero actual information and it will depend on who's in form.
Thomas is definitely a domestique for the tour. He's cooked as a climber. He'll probably get halfway up the Alps or the Pyrenees and sit up. Hart not sure about. Carapaz probably not as you need a good ITT in the Tdf and Porte is up there in the top 10.
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06-21-2021 , 09:29 AM
Holy ****, it actually happened

Cavendish is going to race the Tour as Quickstep's sprinter, no Sam Bennett.
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06-21-2021 , 10:04 AM
I'm sad that Bennett isn't fit for the Tour but I have to admit a Cav win on the Champs would be incredible.
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06-22-2021 , 05:13 PM
Saturday summer officially begins when the 108th edition of the biggest cycling race in the world sets off in Brest in Brittany, France (should actually have started in Denmark, but due to Copenhagen hosting Euro Championships games, the Danish start has been postponed to next year).



The Tour de France is where legends are made, where the greatest champions of the sport rise and fall, three weeks of grueling racing awaits those (un)fortunate enough to have been selected for this strenuous task before most of them make it to Paris. In those 3 weeks, new, completely unpredictable stories will have been written and unfolded, riders will have won our hearts and our sympathy. This is part what makes cycling more than just a competition and more than a sport like so many others.

Last year we witnessed the impossible when Roglic, who had seemed in control for the entire race, lost the yellow jersey on the "final" (technically penultimate) test, a time trial where his compatriot Pogacar defied the capacity of human physical performance and crushed Roglic and everyone else and claimed the overall win for himself.


The Combatants

There are as always many different competitions in a Grand Tour: who will win the race, who will dominate the sprints, who will pull a Søren Kragh Andersen (who the hell is Vinokourov?) and cheat the sprinters out of a stage or two.

The Three Musketeers

We have the troublesome trio that the thread title is dedicated to all at the race, and with the first two days resembling spring classics terrain, it seems very likely that we could have one of these three guys in yellow.

I'm talking, of course, about Wout van Aert, Mathieu van der Poel and world champion Julian Alaphilippe. These three riders have been a treat for cycling over their meteoric rise over the last couple of years, where they have won a ridiculous amount of races.



They will all have good chances on the first two stages (assuming WvA is allowed to race for it).


The sprinters

The quick men of the bunch have always fascinated me. They spend >99% of the race doing nothing, but the whole team's success depends entirely on what happens in those final seconds of the stages.

Feels like there aren't too many super top tier sprinters who also have elite teams (sorry Cavendish), so we might see a lot of different riders win on the flats.

Among those that must be mentioned are:

Caleb Ewan, "The Pocket Rocket". Probably the quickest man in the peloton, but he's not very big and sometimes his team has let him down, so his position ends up being too bad to sprint it home. He's won 5 stages the past 2 years and won 2 at the Giro too, and he will look to add more victories to his already impressive palmares.


Arnaud Demare had a great season last year but didn't race the Tour. I used to think he was a little bit below the top sprinters, but last year he really showed that he is among the best.


Finally I want to highlight one of the greatest sprinters of all time who makes his return to the race where he has won an incredible 30 stages. Mark Cavendish, The Manx Missile, is back at the Tour. It's been 5 years since his last win in this race, and those years have not treated him well. He was out sick for a long while, and until his (quadruple) wins in Turkey this year, it had been more than 3 years since he had won any race. It's really great to see him again, the man breathes cycling, and I hope he has a successful Tour - it would be incredible if he could win a stage.


Other sprinters of note: Sagan, Pedersen, Bol, Merlier, Philipsen, Colbrelli and many others.


The Favorites


The defending champion Tadej Pogacar will be looking to repeat his sensational win last year. Last year he was a one man army, this year, on paper, his UAE team looks stronger, and if he can find the form of last year, he will be difficult to beat (mainly due to the fact that Mark Padun is not racing the Tour).


His biggest threat in my opinion will be Primoz Roglic. An incredible cyclist who just keeps on winning. However, the biggest title has eluded him, and he will be looking for payback after his soul crushing defeat last year.
This year he's not raced any races the past 2 months leading up to the Tour, and time will tell if this rather unusual form of preparation is going to prove beneficial. Alongside him there is a ridiculously stacked Jumbo-Visma team.


Finally we have this monstrosity (I was going to add the heads of the trio to a picture of a three-headed hydra, but I'm lazy, so you'll have to imagine it).
INEOS know better than anyone how to win a Grand Tour. They have dominated the world of cycling for a decade, winning most Tours, with 4 different winners, and also winning multiple Giros and Vueltas.
The captain going into the race will be Geraint Thomas, but if he has an offday, Richie Porte and Richard Carapaz are ready to take over, and super domestique Tao Geoghegan Hart also proved last year he has what it takes over three weeks. INEOS' strength lies in their insanely stacked squad and their usually impeccable strategy.




Honorable mention of Chris Froome, who seems like he won't come truly back after his devastating crash a couple of years ago, but frankly I'm not sure Froome could do anything anymore that would surprise me, including somehow rising at the Tour, although it seems extremely unlikely that he'll play a big part this year.



And that concludes this Tour preview as I'm tired of writing, but there are so many more facets of the race one could delve into, so many other riders that deserve a mention, but I'm sure we'll get a chance to talk about it all along the way.
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06-22-2021 , 06:54 PM
Lol going in with Thomas as the tour leader for Ineos who will crack in the mountains and end up losing 5 minutes overall. With the riders they have Porte has to be the leader on balance. His game is probably 15 to 20% better than his team-mates across climbing and time trialing.
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06-22-2021 , 10:09 PM
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Other sprinters of note: Sagan
LOL'd. Will LOL again.

Nice writeup.
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06-23-2021 , 12:20 AM
Great post Vigg
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06-23-2021 , 04:35 AM
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LOL'd. Will LOL again.



Nice writeup.
But Sagan is a very good intermediate sprinter Professional Cycling 2021 - A Belgian, a Dutchman and a Frenchman rides into a classic
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06-25-2021 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Lol going in with Thomas as the tour leader for Ineos who will crack in the mountains and end up losing 5 minutes overall. With the riders they have Porte has to be the leader on balance. His game is probably 15 to 20% better than his team-mates across climbing and time trialing.
Yeah I am skeptical of this strategy. I will be fascinated to see how they handle difficult decisions around sacrificing any of Carapaz, Porte, or Thomas to help one of the others. Even TGH is tough to sacrifice if you aren't sure who is going to be in the best position and in the best form in the final week.

I really can't believe Le Tour is already here. Between it and the Euros I'm going to be totally consumed outside of working.
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06-25-2021 , 01:31 PM
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Yeah I am skeptical of this strategy. I will be fascinated to see how they handle difficult decisions around sacrificing any of Carapaz, Porte, or Thomas to help one of the others. Even TGH is tough to sacrifice if you aren't sure who is going to be in the best position and in the best form in the final week.

I really can't believe Le Tour is already here. Between it and the Euros I'm going to be totally consumed outside of working.
Goat Summer to be working from home really

I'd be utter pissed if I had to miss euro games, tour de france stages or olympics (will be mostly during the morning/day in europe) because of having to be in the office
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06-25-2021 , 04:38 PM
Yeah lol I'm turning on rona tracing on my phone in the hope I get buzzed and forced to stay at home for a period. My job sucks.

Route looks really good to me this year
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06-26-2021 , 07:08 AM
Let us TdF

What a great way to kick off the weekend
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