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Originally Posted by tchaz
Brilliant post. Nothing to add, but do please keep posting to the thread.
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Originally Posted by Paasei
That Jakobsen - Groenewegen crash was horrible.
Obviously Jakobsen is the victim here, but also felt bad for Groenewegen for all the stick he got. Saw a 3 minute (Dutch) video from him apologizing yesterday. It was so sincere and you could see how devastated he is.
Hopefully Jakobsen can recover from this and they can race again in the future.
I agree. People are quick to get riled up and hurl abuse at riders, especially when a bad crash happens, but I think Groenewegen's behavior is by no means unheard-of in sprint finishes. It was reckless, but it often is in those situations. They should hit down harder on reckless riding in general, rather than measure the crime based on the consequences.
There were even some from the cycling world suggesting he should go to jail, I also read people suggesting he should be trialed with murder or manslaughter if Jakobsen had died. Just obscene.
Thankfully he's doing better now. I read that he still can't talk, but he can communicate through text messenges. The team doctor said that he thought he would be able to to race professionally sometime in the future, which is uplifting news. It's still impossible to know how his recovery will go, though, and whether he will ever be truly back. There can be a mental block preventing him from going all in in another sprint when he nearly lost his life in one. His face is also allegedly completely ****ed up which can also have a big psychological impact on his life off the bike.
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Originally Posted by Eric Clipperton
Evenepoel's wattage data is unbelievable
I haven't seen it, but I believe it. It's mind-boggling how good of a TT rider he is considering his size. I know he weighed more when he placed second at the world championship, but typically 1.7m tall riders aren't exactly known for having so much power in their legs.
It's crazy how he has pushed the boundaries of expectations practically every time he races. At first many expected he would struggle to make the step up from junior racing, like so many others have. Then he begins to win races. Next some say "he won't stand up to the best of the best in the big races", he wins San Sebastian. Then it's "he climbs well, but he won't win stage races" and he wins Burgos and Pologne. And now many bookies have him as the favorite to win Il Lombardia and the Giro. Of course, riding for the GC in a Grand Tour is a different kind of beast entirely, but at this point the only thing that would surprise me is if he falls through.
Dauphine tomorrow will be a treat. 5 uphill finishes over 5 days, a HC climb on each of the final 4 stages.
INEOS and TJV with disgustingly strong teams and with virtually everyone who hopes to be a factor in the TdF GC present, this race will surely answer some questions - and form new ones.
We'll see how deep they'll dig and how hard they'll go for it, but I'll say I consider Roglic the favorite. He's in formidable form and the lack of high altitude climbs is a disadvantage for Bernal, who is on par with the best under normal circumstances, but in a tier of his own when the air gets very thin.
One thing that will be key is whether Roglic will manage to peak at the right time this year. Last year, I believe he won every stage race he showed up in during spring, and he looked unbeatable the first week in the Giro, but then he began to struggle.
I hope the short period between the restart and the Tour will mean he will be at his best.
Speaking of the Tour and peaking at the right time, the "structure" of the route is very interesting this year (as long as you're not a sprinter). There will be 3-4 mountain stages (or near-mountain stages) within the first 8 stages. For comparison, last year there was only one mountain stage in the first 11. This means adhering to the old saying of using the first week and a half of a Grand Tour to get into shape can be very costly. You have to be peaking or near peaking for nearly 3 weeks, and that takes skill to manage.
It will be great to have a team that can (hopefully) match INEOS in TJV. This has been said about Movistar numerous times and each year they failed miserably, but I do think this TJV team looks better than Movistar have.
For what felt like the first time in forever, someone looked stronger than INEOS last year, and often TJV would have a couple of domestiques left while GT and Bernal were isolated.
However, when I say they looked stronger, I am talking about the supporting cast, because I don't think at any point it seemed like Kruijswijk could seriously threaten GT or Bernal. He was very strong and not far behind them, but I don't think he seemed strong enough to attack the INEOS duo, best of the rest was all he could hope for. I think peak Roglic and Dumoulin (if he's in form) have better chances of challenging.
(Part of) what made Movistar struggle has been their inability to cooperate, and I don't see that being as much of an issue for TJV. There don't seem to be the same internal power struggles, and a duo of Kruijswijk and Roglic have already worked well together in 2018.
I love watching these stacked teams - when they're evenly matched and don't just smother the competition. Alternatively, when the real competition is inside the team. I recall Astana in 2009 which is probably the most stacked team I can remember. Contador, Armstrong, Leipheimer, Klöden, Zubeldia and Popovych... Every one of those guys could've been captain on some of the biggest teams (and had been during other seasons), but there was little to no cooperation. Not like peak Contador needed much help to win, anyway.