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Old 07-20-2015, 11:49 AM   #576
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Re: Pro Cycling 2015 thread: Le Tour, Giro, Vuelta, etc.

That's one way to try and derail a Sky train

G is hard as ****ing nails.
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Old 07-20-2015, 12:29 PM   #577
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The crash:

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Old 07-20-2015, 01:25 PM   #578
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Just realized there's hardly any time trailing in this tour. Figured there would be a TT in the final week. Some tours have nearly 100k of individual TT by this only has 14.
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Old 07-20-2015, 02:09 PM   #579
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That's why people thought Quintana was a serious threat for yellow this year. While both Froome and Contador are excellent time trialists, Quintana isn't. So a course with little time trialing should be good for him.
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Old 07-20-2015, 02:46 PM   #580
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They should have another individual TT at the Alpe d'Huez one year. that was ****ing epic
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:26 PM   #581
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Did anyone without Eurosport coverage get to see Sagan's descent? On Eurosport they split screened and claimed it was their exclusive coverage. If that's true it's absolute lol TV coverage, that's pathetic. Why do they have to show a meaningless GC ride on a not very difficult climb instead of one of the most entertaining descents I've ever seen, he is an absolute nut job. Cyclinghub.tv have the Eurosport feed if anyone wants to see it.
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:11 PM   #582
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:12 PM   #583
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Did anyone without Eurosport coverage get to see Sagan's descent? On Eurosport they split screened and claimed it was their exclusive coverage. If that's true it's absolute lol TV coverage, that's pathetic. Why do they have to show a meaningless GC ride on a not very difficult climb instead of one of the most entertaining descents I've ever seen, he is an absolute nut job. Cyclinghub.tv have the Eurosport feed if anyone wants to see it.
US coverage basically didn't show the GC guys at all until after the break finished
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:21 PM   #584
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US coverage basically didn't show the GC guys at all until after the break finished
Good to hear, it was a very entertaining final 15km with the break. Not sure if others noticed but one of the corners Sagan almost overcooked it on near the end of the descent was the spot that Beloki decked it in 2003. The road quality was noticeably better this time.
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:03 AM   #585
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GC riders >>>>> breakaways guys
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:25 AM   #586
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GC riders >>>>> breakaways guys
On true mountain stages I agree with you but not on days like yesterday.

I found it super frustrating on stage 6 when the sprint is opening up and the cameras are focused on Martin, Froome and Nibali bouncing off each other to just get the same finishing time anyway. Liggett didn't even have a clue (not that he does normally) about who attacked to win the stage.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:42 AM   #587
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Re: Pro Cycling 2015 thread: Le Tour, Giro, Vuelta, etc.

Froome on Col du Soudet to La Pierre St Martin

RPM 97
HR avg 158, 174 max
5,78W/kg
97 tours/min
gear transmission: 52-38, 11-28

If froome weights 68kg this is less than 400W avg.

Gesink had 5,82W/kg on the same climb
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:56 AM   #588
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Here are the last 6km from yesterday. Sagan only edition

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgeNu5Gq-c
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:08 AM   #589
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Nice to have the option on eurosport player to pick which moto camera to watch. Too bad it lags a bit behind but having the option to choose which group to watch is and the ability to skip the endless commercials early on the stage is a nice bonus.


Well at least there is something for people to talk about on the rest day now. Like how much does Froome actually weigh and how true is the -6% correction to the actual data from the power meter. From power battles to power number battles. Funny sport.

Obviously one of the numbers has to be wrong. Seems unlikely that Gesink loses a minute and half with higher W/kg.
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:34 AM   #590
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Re: Pro Cycling 2015 thread: Le Tour, Giro, Vuelta, etc.

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Froome on Col du Soudet to La Pierre St Martin

RPM 97
HR avg 158, 174 max
5,78W/kg
97 tours/min
gear transmission: 52-38, 11-28

If froome weights 68kg this is less than 400W avg.

Gesink had 5,82W/kg on the same climb
This is one whole kilometre of the 15km climb:
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:07 PM   #591
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Hehe just reposted what a journalist did post on twitter from the sky press conference. Pretty sure they meant the whole climb.
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Old 07-21-2015, 05:34 PM   #592
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What does gear transmission mean?
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:16 PM   #593
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Not sure if it is the correct word but it means the big front chainring has 52 teeths and the small one 38. btw the 28 in the back surprised me a bit, but than again it is froome who looks like someone who really likes the small gears. Always sitting on his bike never getting up to attack. Always doing his rhytmen.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:38 PM   #594
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Re: Pro Cycling 2015 thread: Le Tour, Giro, Vuelta, etc.

I've heard that, ever since the pro peloton switched to 11 speed rear cassettes, a largest sprocket size of 28 is pretty common. In the mountains, some teams even switch to 32. 11 as the smallest size is super standard. The big news on Sunday was that Greipel's bike had a malfunction and could only go to the second smallest cog (12 tooth).

52/38 front sprockets aren't standard for consumers (they are usually 53/39 or 50/34), but the pro teams have mechanics who take apart the bike every stage anyway and will install non-standard sizes.

As for the rear cassette, an off-the-shelf 11 speed cassette from 11-28 has the following number of teeth: 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-28 (source: http://www.bike24.com/p259218.html)

Of course, the pros can switch the sprockets to any size they want.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:46 PM   #595
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Ya, so it doesnt indicate which gears he primary used.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:51 PM   #596
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52/38 is considered a mid compact crankset. A lot of companies are selling bikes with these specs nowadays specialized for one.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:57 PM   #597
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I've heard that, ever since the pro peloton switched to 11 speed rear cassettes, a largest sprocket size of 28 is pretty common. In the mountains, some teams even switch to 32. 11 as the smallest size is super standard. The big news on Sunday was that Greipel's bike had a malfunction and could only go to the second smallest cog (12 tooth).

52/38 front sprockets aren't standard for consumers (they are usually 53/39 or 50/34), but the pro teams have mechanics who take apart the bike every stage anyway and will install non-standard sizes.

As for the rear cassette, an off-the-shelf 11 speed cassette from 11-28 has the following number of teeth: 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-28 (source: http://www.bike24.com/p259218.html)

Of course, the pros can switch the sprockets to any size they want.
Just bought my wife a new Liv (Giant) which is the first bike we have had with 11 speed, was surprised to see the 28 in the cassette as I expected it to just be a tighter range 12-25 and have never researched what is standard.

Im not even sure if they could make a 10 tooth cog without going to a smaller freehub.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:26 AM   #598
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Not sure if it is the correct word but it means the big front chainring has 52 teeths and the small one 38. btw the 28 in the back surprised me a bit, but than again it is froome who looks like someone who really likes the small gears. Always sitting on his bike never getting up to attack. Always doing his rhytmen.
yeah, 97 rpm is really high
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Old 07-22-2015, 05:27 AM   #599
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Hehe just reposted what a journalist did post on twitter from the sky press conference. Pretty sure they meant the whole climb.
An unsurprising attempt by Sky to manipulate numbers in order to make Froome's ride seem less impressive.

Here are the numbers for the whole climb:

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Stage 10. La Pierre Saint Martin (14.89 km, 7.72 %, 1150 m) Chris Froome: 40 min 54 sec, 21.84 Kph, VAM 1687 m/h, 6.09 W/kg [DrF]
Although these numbers seem to have cut the climb a little short. The whole climb is 15.3 km. However it doesn't matter much as I got 6.10 W/kg when I calculated it with the whole 15.3 km.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:21 AM   #600
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Tejay out maybe ill after restday. Geschke and sagan again in the escape group
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