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10-21-2018 , 06:42 AM
Lol urbz

Lets start with this spicy tweet



I think Purdue just knocked osu out of the playoffs. There are more well deserving undefeated teams out there as well as one loss teams that would deserve to go in over osu. This is again a horrible loss for the Ohio state. Just like last year. It’s becoming a yearly tradition!
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10-21-2018 , 07:19 AM
I agree with that. Losing by that much to Purdue is just bad. Results oriented or whatever, good teams don't do that ever.

The playoff contenders are:

Right now it would be: Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, Michigan

Best shots to displace Michigan:
Whoever survives of UGA, LSU, Florida, Kentucky

Longshots: Iowa, Washington State, Texas, Oklahoma

Probably forgot someone.

I hate Michigan with a passion, but that defense seems to be real. Kentucky is Kentucky, so bad and really has no hope, but their defense is putting up huge numbers in the SEC, and that's not something to laugh at.
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10-21-2018 , 07:35 AM
Ohio State is hanging on by a thread now. For the second straight year, they have what many would consider to be a “Disqualifying Event” on their schedule. One blowout loss to a middling team might actually be worse than 2 losses for some.

Feel like the team whose playoff equity jumped the most might be Alabama honestly. This opens up basically all of their 1-loss scenarios to qualify for the playoffs where that was in doubt with undefeated OSU and 1 loss Michigan facing each other.

Clemson looks like the lockiest of locks to Playoff as the ACC is so mediocre and I think their name brand can fade one loss and still get in.
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10-21-2018 , 08:06 AM
I hate to tamp down some good schadenfreude, but technically Ohio State also had a 2nd loss last year. We still had to hear arguments on putting them into the playoff and they still finished goddamned 5th in the committee rankings.

It certainly does help that they looked pretty bad the whole game and made all those hilariously bad plays down the stretch. Even Georgia looked better than that.
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10-21-2018 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
I hate to tamp down some good schadenfreude, but technically Ohio State also had a 2nd loss last year. We still had to hear arguments on putting them into the playoff and they still finished goddamned 5th in the committee rankings.
This.

No way is Ohio State eliminated. They're still going to be top 10, with Michigan at home on the horizon.
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10-21-2018 , 08:37 AM
I don't think the loss changes much currently

SEC Champ Clemson Big 10 champ ND with Alabama/Big 12 champ being first one out

I think it just creates more situations where chaos ensues should these teams lose again
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10-21-2018 , 08:39 AM
OSU is probably in no matter what if they win out but they really should hope for either Iowa or Purdue to run the table in the west as beating either one in the B1G Championship would look good.
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10-21-2018 , 09:04 AM
1. Alabama
2. Purdue
3. LSU
4. Notre Dame
5. Georgia
6. Kentucky
7. Oklahoma
8. Texas
9. Army
10. Michigan
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10-21-2018 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
I think Purdue just knocked osu out of the playoffs.
lol
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10-21-2018 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
lol


Don’t think it’s that unreasonable. They are gonna have to run the table obviously to get in and be pretty convincing from here on out. How about you explain why it’s funny. They are pretty ****ed as it stands right now. Things could change obviously as the season progresses. And I said I think. They are not 100 percent done for to be clear
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10-21-2018 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
This.

No way is Ohio State eliminated. They're still going to be top 10, with Michigan at home on the horizon.
ya but if they beat michigan, then they just beat a 2 loss michigan team with not good wins. likewise their psu win. pretty much they have no good wins and one bad loss.

also, it really matters how the rest of the contenders finish. last year they would have made it if bama won out but there are more teams that qualify this year.
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10-21-2018 , 10:45 AM
actually looking at the records, it is pretty similar to last year in that if bama loses then its 2 sec teams, clemson and nd.

if bama wins out then osu has a shot but I think a 1 loss big 12 gets it over them. and 1 loss clemson and nd has a good shot over osu too.

ya really dont think they get the benefit this year. they sure didnt last year with better losses and much better wins and less teams in contention.

so they really only get in if bama wins out leaving all other sec teams with 2 losses. clemson and nd do whatever. then somehow all the big 12 teams end with 2 losses.

eta: oh man, jsut saw that wvu is in the big 12. so thats a nother team that needs to lose.

ya theres no way lol.
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10-21-2018 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
How about you explain why it’s funny.
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Originally Posted by Holliday
I hate to tamp down some good schadenfreude, but technically Ohio State also had a 2nd loss last year. We still had to hear arguments on putting them into the playoff and they still finished goddamned 5th in the committee rankings.
I will join in on the lols as well. OSU had a bad loss AND another loss last year and was still #5. If they win out they are still in very good shape to get in. No way this loss is even close to eliminating them.
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10-21-2018 , 12:09 PM
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ya but if they beat michigan, then they just beat a 2 loss michigan team with not good wins. likewise their psu win. pretty much they have no good wins and one bad loss.

also, it really matters how the rest of the contenders finish. last year they would have made it if bama won out but there are more teams that qualify this year.
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actually looking at the records, it is pretty similar to last year in that if bama loses then its 2 sec teams, clemson and nd.

if bama wins out then osu has a shot but I think a 1 loss big 12 gets it over them. and 1 loss clemson and nd has a good shot over osu too.

ya really dont think they get the benefit this year. they sure didnt last year with better losses and much better wins and less teams in contention.

so they really only get in if bama wins out leaving all other sec teams with 2 losses. clemson and nd do whatever. then somehow all the big 12 teams end with 2 losses.

eta: oh man, jsut saw that wvu is in the big 12. so thats a nother team that needs to lose.

ya theres no way lol.
Dude, I'm not even sure where to start here.

*Again, they finished 5th last year ahead of every other 2-loss team, 12-1 Wisconsin, and a mile ahead of undefeated UCF. They got the benefit of the doubt!
*You think losing 55-24 to eventual 7-5 Iowa was "better" than losing 49-20 to now 4-3 Purdue HOW, exactly? Iowa went out and lost their next 2, btw.
*This, I guess means losing to Oklahoma by 15 at home is *better* than beating TCU by 12 in Dallas?
*Good wins? Last year? You mean Penn State by 1 at home? Wisconsin by 6? Surely, surely, surely you're not referring to Michigan State!
*Last year in the first CFP ranking the top 13 all had 1 loss or better. That's after week 10 but we're already in the same ballpark anyway. There won't be that many teams really in contention by the end.
*The big12 teams *will* all end up with two or more losses because they all keep playing each other including a rematch CCG with their 2nd-best team.

Like, I get that you're down but this is all so over the top.
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10-21-2018 , 02:34 PM
AP Poll is out. The real shocker is Appalachian State making their first ever appearance. That and tOSU getting busted all the way down to BEHIND UCF!!! Alabama picks up that final #1 vote from tOSU.

1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Notre Dame
4 LSU
5 Michigan
6 Texas
7 Georgia
8 Oklahoma
9 Florida
10 UCF
11 Ohio State
12 Kentucky
13 West Virginia
14 Washington State
15 Washington
16 Texas A&M
17 Penn State
18 Iowa
19 Oregon
20 Wisconsin
21 South Florida
22 North Carolina State
23 Utah
24 Stanford
25 Appalachian State
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10-21-2018 , 02:52 PM
When do the committee rankings come out? Those are the only ones that matter anyway
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10-21-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
This.

No way is Ohio State eliminated. They're still going to be top 10, with Michigan at home on the horizon.
...or maybe not.
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10-21-2018 , 03:16 PM
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When do the committee rankings come out? Those are the only ones that matter anyway
Week 10.
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10-21-2018 , 03:26 PM
Y'all are crazy. A 1-loss B1G team is making it in 100% of the time. The only way they get left out is if there are 4 other undefeated teams from the P5. The only thing the Purdue loss means to OSU is that they can't lose another game the rest of the way.
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10-21-2018 , 03:49 PM
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I will join in on the lols as well. OSU had a bad loss AND another loss last year and was still #5. If they win out they are still in very good shape to get in. No way this loss is even close to eliminating them.
they had a bunch of big wins last year tho. they dont this year. nor can they even get them.

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Dude, I'm not even sure where to start here.

*Again, they finished 5th last year ahead of every other 2-loss team, 12-1 Wisconsin, and a mile ahead of undefeated UCF. They got the benefit of the doubt!
*You think losing 55-24 to eventual 7-5 Iowa was "better" than losing 49-20 to now 4-3 Purdue HOW, exactly? Iowa went out and lost their next 2, btw.
*This, I guess means losing to Oklahoma by 15 at home is *better* than beating TCU by 12 in Dallas?

*Last year in the first CFP ranking the top 13 all had 1 loss or better. That's after week 10 but we're already in the same ballpark anyway. There won't be that many teams really in contention by the end.
*The big12 teams *will* all end up with two or more losses because they all keep playing each other including a rematch CCG with their 2nd-best team.

Like, I get that you're down but this is all so over the top.
youre not sure where to start. nor are you sure where to finish. bc you arent sure of wtf you are even talking about.

I said I dont think osu deserves to get in this year. but I guess that still offends you? sorrysnowflake.

yes good wins last year. in the final poll before the bowl games they throttled no6 wisky (thats a hudge win sorry bro) and beat no9 psu (another massive win). 2 wins over 2 top ten teams. not sure anyone else did that last year.

they also absolutely shellacked a 16th ranked msu 48-3. thats a good win!

if the win out they likely wont have a win as good as last years msu win and certainly wont beat a top 10 team, let alone 2. like psu has 2 losses. wisky has 2 losses. msu is unranked. their best win will be over a michigan team that will then finish with at best 2 losses and drop to the mid teens. maybe iowa wins out and then osu can give them their 2nd loss and thats another mid teen team then. thats the best case scenario.

so ya, its quite clear that they had a much better resume last year even with 2 losses. I know its hard to see through that insane bia but please try to use your brain a little bit.

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*Good wins? Last year? You mean Penn State by 1 at home? Wisconsin by 6? Surely, surely, surely you're not referring to Michigan State!
so beating the no9 team is not good. beating an undefeated team in a conf title game at a neutral site? meh. destroying the 16th team? nope not impressive.

and Im the one saying they dont deserve it. so like, you are preemptively getting mad at me bc they might make the playoffs?

oh wait

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Again, they finished 5th last year ahead of every other 2-loss team, 12-1 Wisconsin
its not the benefit of the doubt to finish above a team that you convincingly beat a weak earlier. so ya, I see your problem is being mentally challenged.
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10-21-2018 , 04:45 PM
C'mon Victor; you never said anything about "deserves" to get in this year, you just said they wouldn't. Every point you made is either demonstrably wrong or greatly exaggerated, and all dwarfed by the difference in one vs. two losses.

Just to be clear, 99% of the difference in last year and this year is:
*2 losses vs. 1 loss
*2 losses vs. 1 loss
*2 losses vs. 1 loss
*2 losses vs. 1 loss
*2 losses vs. 1 loss

I was in no way offended (before the name calling) just...stupified that anyone can miss something THAT obvious. I mean, I *assumed* everyone just forgot about their second loss last year. No I don't really think anyone will perceive this year's 1-point win at PSU as being significantly worse than last year's 1-point win over them at home, and this year's Michigan will likely be perceived as the best team they've played for two years anyway.

But, you know, if you feel that strongly about your idiotic idea we could make a wager on it. tOSU wins out they make the playoff? I'll go a thousand if we escrow.
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10-21-2018 , 05:12 PM
a 2 loss michigan team is a better win than a 6th ranked wisky in the conf title game? lol dude.

psu finished the year ranked 9. right now they are like 19. thats a bid difference. I mean, you just got done telling me that whupping 16th ranked msu is not a good win but now you think 19th ranked psu is same as beating the 9th ranked team.

heres the thing, they aint getting in over one loss sec teams, one loss clemson, or one loss big12 champs. proly not 1 loss nd either. so they need bama to win out and the big 12 champ to finish with 2 losses. aint happening.

and thats another hudge difference between this year and last year. last year teams had a lot more losses. so unless those losses start piling up, they are done.
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10-21-2018 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
a 2 loss michigan team is a better win than a 6th ranked wisky in the conf title game? lol dude.

psu finished the year ranked 9. right now they are like 19. thats a bid difference. I mean, you just got done telling me that whupping 16th ranked msu is not a good win but now you think 19th ranked psu is same as beating the 9th ranked team.

heres the thing, they aint getting in over one loss sec teams, one loss clemson, or one loss big12 champs. proly not 1 loss nd either. so they need bama to win out and the big 12 champ to finish with 2 losses. aint happening.

and thats another hudge difference between this year and last year. last year teams had a lot more losses. so unless those losses start piling up, they are done.
The ACC is terrible with FSU sucking now, clemson has 0 top 15 teams on their schedule. They definitely get in over a 1 loss Clemson.

One loss SEC > one loss Texas/OU> one loss Oh St > one loss ND/Clemson/WVU/Iowa/wash st.
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10-21-2018 , 05:35 PM
Victor; you forgot to take me up on my wager.
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10-21-2018 , 05:47 PM
Week 8 Resume rankings:

1. Notre Dame 33%
2. Clemson 34%
3. Alabama 36%
4. LSU 57%
5. Michigan 65% / Ohio State 65%
7. UCF 68% / Texas 68%
9. Oklahoma 69%
10. Kentucky 70%
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