Yes, "could". As opposed to "could not".

I "would not" say Georgia has no equity in that spot and Florida would have beaten LSU twice and possibly Georgia.

Not sure you stated it exactly how I"ve got it. Bet is if OSU is 12-1 and Bama 11-1, it will NOT be OSU in and Bama out (of playoff). Anything else - different records or both in with OSU higher seeded, for instance - is no action. OSU in and Bama out is your bet, right? YOu can't say "fails to bump." Clemson and Notre Dame could both lose, OSU could be 1-seed under your scenario, but if Bama is in ... nobody won the bet and nobody lost it.

Agreed.

I suppose we can ponder situations where Clemson and ND are 12-0 and anOSU is 12-1 necessitating 3 berths. the other 99% of the time the PC will conclude that 11-1 Bama and 11-2 UGA are both part of the best team club.

And yes, being a strong brand like Bama is how you are seen as one of the best teams without a quality win.

And an average winning margin of 40 points under a hand ride, pulling up in the fourth quarter. That's not the brand, that's the team. Secretariat did that stuff. What is the greatest average winning margin ever?/ Routing A&M on road who almost beat Clemson not a quality win?

Tried to look up greatest average margin of victory in modern game, say since 1970, couldn't find it. I"m guessing Seminoles 2013 which is 39 1/2 including Bowl game. Bama is 38 or so.

Alabama played Texas A&M at home. Clemson went to Texas A&M. And, no, a win over 7-5 Texas A&M will not be impressive just because TAMU lost a close home game to a good team.

I think Fella is referring to this year while I was on 2017. Wasn't Fresno State the 2nd best OOC win for the entire SEC last yr?

What I've said is I don't see 11-1 Bama being put into the playoffs at the expense of *any* 12-1 P5 champion this year. So it doesn't have to be Ohio State specifically; Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, West Virginia, even Iowa and Wazzu run the table and I think that's prohibitive for 11-1 Alabama getting in (given the ND and Clemson win out and another SEC team is already in). Likewise Clemson could drop one and would still probably get in. Does 11-1 Alabama beat out 11-1 Notre Dame?


Maybe they get taken over a 2-loss SEC champ (and sometimes not), maybe they get taken in addition to a 2-loss SEC champ, and they certainly get taken over 11-1 Iowa, and I mean, I guess if Clemson looks like crap from here on out, really got slaughtered by South Carolina, and then barely won their championship game over some 8-4 surprise, then *they* could get jumped by Alabama on the basis of the better game against a common opponent. Or, you know, some other ****show conflagration of some current 1-loss team running the table against a legit remaining schedule while looking terrible doing it...but that all seems like we're talking about really long odds.

It's just I expect when push comes to shove and all Alabama has is their perception of strength with no big games to back it up AND that impression will most likely take a hit by them losing (look at Georgia) I don't see that the committee will feel compelled to put them in. They've left out teams like this before (2015 tOSU) and it's not like the committee *wants* to be the pro-Alabama-at-all-costs guys. AFAIC Bama is like Wisconsin last year; go undefeated and "Fine, you're in."--lose 1 and "**** you you should have scheduled tougher". Just being consistent.

I'm drawing a blank--who has gotten into the playoff without any quality wins? Even 2017 Alabama beat 2 teams ranked both when they played and at the end of the year (plus Florida State who was..one out of two?). Did that or those teams lose the only time they played a ranked team, late in the season, and miss their CCG?

Time for this question: Have you been watching college football for the last 5 years? Alabama occupies the position that Mike Tyson did in boxing, that Jon Jones does in MMA, that UCLA did in hoops, that Roger Federer did in tennis, that the Bulls, Lakers and Celtics did in the NBA (in their respective dominant eras), that the 49ers, Steelers, Cowboys did in their dynasty runs, etc. etc. ... Yet you are acting like the fact that their schedule is weaker than anticipated this year might mean they are suspect as a team. It seems for all the world that they have taken a great quantum leap forward in their dynasty run by fielding an awesome double threat QB, the one thing they haven't had under Saban (well maybe a great field goal kicker). Quantum leap forward and they already were a dynasty.

Bama is 10 points better than the next best team. They’re winning all tiebreakers because of it.

Bama not winning it all this year. Gonna lose at least once. Most overrated team in the history of the universe, beating up on patsies like they were Michigan or some Big10 team.

You can't be serious. I think most people here, especially ones who have been here the last 5 years, would agree I watch more college football than is healthy. Look, I have a problem; I even watch most of the SunBelt games (and rewatch them in the offseason).

I agree Alabama is not getting left out of the playoffs if they win out, and perhaps could go 12-1 and make it (I say "perhaps" only because it would depend on the loss or if it were the CCG and the winner got in and if the field were tight). I think they should be very proud of having built up that much of a reputation and warmly encourage them to not blow it by losing to the Sean Spicer of coaches in what turns out to be their only meaningful game of the season (or then at least really murder someone in their consolation bowl so they can shake their fists at their televisions for the next couple of years like Ohio State fans).

LSU is better than Buster Douglas was.

Lol this is my thoughts exactly. Alabama's weak schedule is ABSOLUTELY meaningless. Everyone has always known that if Saban ever had a real QB Alabama would surge to possible goat status. And that's where they're at right now. Now being goat status doesn't make you unbeatable ofc. Bama could always have 5 turnovers to LSU/Georgia and lose by 3 or something. But there's no way in hell the committee is EVER gonna lock out a one loss goat Bama team in favor of one loss B1G champ team. Humans may be dumb enough to destroy the planet in the name of ever greater profits but they ain't THAT dumb.

All past logic does not apply to a 1 loss goat Bama team. They've earned the right to be the exception to any so called rule. LOL at Holliday comparing Bama to Wisconsin last year. People don't live in a vacuum and people aren't held hostage to some Platonic ideal algorithm. Everyone has seen what Bama has done the last decade. Everyone has seen what Bama has done in the playoff era. Everyone knows this Bama team is better than all those other Bama teams. My ****ing grandma knows this for christs sake. Choosing a 1 loss non-champ Bama team over a 1 loss B1G champ team will be the easiest decision ever for the committee.

This argument is still ******ed tho given the low probability of this scenario ever happening.

2017 Bama had 1 win in the top 25 over LSU in the poll that mattered.

How about if you lose you can owe me?

ding ding ding ding ^^^^^^^+++++++

ding ding ding ding ^^^^^^^. First sentence of second paragraph resolves the discussion, make that the whole second paragraph.

They were in 5th place before the championship games and got jumped by Georgia after them. They would have been left out if Wisconsin had won OR if tOSU didn't lose their 2nd game (either of them). They only got in because 2 P5 conferences had champs with two losses and ND wasn't in the picture.

"But their schedule was almost as bad last year." is in no way a winning point. Last year they only finished 1.7 points lower than they currently are in Sagarin, plus we're saying they're about to lose to LSU. That's not much of a difference, actually.

Yes 11-1 Alabama beats out any other 1 loss P5 team that doesn't win its conference. I already agreed with that.

1 loss bama is not beating out 1 loss mich. They def go over osu, as they should this year and regardless the committee is massively biased against osu anyway so they easily get the nod.

I was having a pretty bleh day as I'm a bit sick but the laughter of osu fans playing the victim against the committee after 2014 has brightened it up a bit. Thanks

he's still mad about one year they were barely in the playoff conversation but thinks they were a best team ever contender. at least from all the posts I recognized too late to skip over