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Old 10-17-2018, 09:01 PM   #76
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Re: Post week 7 NCAAF rankings/discussion

I'm on Cornhuskers money line a lot over the next 19 games, including the bowl game next year. it's worth looking at.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:40 PM   #77
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I'm fairly sure that within the decade they'll be genuinely better than teams like Oklahoma. The school is better located and draws on a similar talent pool. Why do you think FSU is so bad now?

I'd anticipate something like has happened in basketball will happen in football. These academically mediocre second tier state schools have a recruiting advantage and should be able to field stronger and stronger teams. It may not be long before Georgia Southern is consistently the second best team in its state, UCF is already consistently the second best team in its state. What's better about FSU than UCF or South Florida for a random kid?
Not sure why I'm even responding to this but FSU is #5 in 247 team talent composite rankings and that's even including a weaker than normal class b/c of the transition to Taggart. Neither USF nor UCF are even in the top 50. There's no way in hell they're better within a decade barring some type of major sanctions at FSU. Even then FSU will still be better as long as it's not a death penalty. College kids dgaf about how great the city they're living in is, football facilities, the campus, and school/conference tradition are way more important.

Georgia Southern is in the middle of nowhere in Georgia btw.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:43 AM   #78
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I dunno. Top talent didn't flood to the U in 2001 because they wanted to play against the Big East.
isn't that the point Holly was making
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:07 PM   #79
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Tricky game for my boys this weekend
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:39 PM   #80
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I'm fairly sure that within the decade they'll be genuinely better than teams like Oklahoma. The school is better located and draws on a similar talent pool. Why do you think FSU is so bad now?

I'd anticipate something like has happened in basketball will happen in football. These academically mediocre second tier state schools have a recruiting advantage and should be able to field stronger and stronger teams. It may not be long before Georgia Southern is consistently the second best team in its state, UCF is already consistently the second best team in its state. What's better about FSU than UCF or South Florida for a random kid?
Dude, money.

UGA's endowment is $1,200 million. Oklahoma's is $1,600 million. Stanford's is $24,800 million.

Georgia Southern's is $64 million. UCF's is $155 million.


Endowments are a reasonable proxy for how rich alumni are and how much they feel connected to the school, and thus are also a reasonable proxy for how much money the ath department has.

Obviously, this varies by school (Stanford's athletic department does not have 20x more money than UGA's), but the point is to illustrate that the scale differences we are talking about are ****ing enormous.

Gus Malzahn's buyout is almost as large as Georgia Southern's entire freaking endowment for their entire freaking university.

The "big boys" are playing on a totally different monetary scale than the little brothers.
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:41 PM   #81
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I'm on Cornhuskers money line a lot over the next 19 games, including the bowl game next year. it's worth looking at.
Don't wanna rain on your parade, but this isn't exactly a hot take. Nebraska is -171 over 3-3 Minnesota this weekend, which is 3 points better than Sagarin would have it.

Not exactly a well kept secret that Nebraska has actually solidly mediocre
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:26 PM   #82
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Dude, money.

UGA's endowment is $1,200 million. Oklahoma's is $1,600 million. Stanford's is $24,800 million.

Georgia Southern's is $64 million. UCF's is $155 million.


Endowments are a reasonable proxy for how rich alumni are and how much they feel connected to the school, and thus are also a reasonable proxy for how much money the ath department has.

Obviously, this varies by school (Stanford's athletic department does not have 20x more money than UGA's), but the point is to illustrate that the scale differences we are talking about are ****ing enormous.

Gus Malzahn's buyout is almost as large as Georgia Southern's entire freaking endowment for their entire freaking university.

The "big boys" are playing on a totally different monetary scale than the little brothers.
Ok, this is true.
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:42 PM   #83
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Purdue might be the best team in the B1G West. They really should have not blown it against Northwestern (or lost to Eastern Michigan, but no reason to care about that). They've got the hardest remaining schedule, though.

Wisconsin, then Northwestern, then Iowa, then Purdue in order of likelihood to win the WOAT West.
Purdue didn't exactly blow it against Northwestern. They never led actually, but didn't complete the comeback in part due to a horrible (but legitimate) personal foul penalty that wiped out a chance to get the ball back late.

Eastern Michigan was clearly an aberration. But a loss is a loss.

Should have beaten Missouri but comeback got derailed by an admittedly bad replay reversal.

I think the "best team in the west" is completely up for debate between the 4 teams. Purdue is probably on the slight outside looking in of the 4 currently.
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:46 PM   #84
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isn't that the point Holly was making
I guess he was.

Say, in that relegation model do Independents get to play FCS?
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:10 PM   #85
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Tbh I was more spitting hot fire than making an actual point.
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