Really, really awful idea. Move along to something else.

I agree with this.

The last few minutes of CFL games are better then the last few minutes of an NFL game. This is because the clock stops after any 1st down. This allows a team to run the ball or throw over the middle.

It would be interesting if during the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter. Keep the current clock rules with incompletions and boundaries but add. When a whistle blows a play dead and the ball is still in play (not out of bounds or incomplete) the clock stops. As soon as the ball has been placed and all the officials are set they start the clock moving again.

This allows teams to run the ball and throw it over the middle. But they have to move very quickly and be ready because the clock will be running soon.

In theory, this is true. In practice, games would not really last that much longer, on average. The best teams in the NFL score TDs on <30% of their drives. Imagine that we somehow had two teams both with amazing offenses and awful defenses and the probability of each scoring a TD on a given drive is 40%. The probability of them going TD-TD-TD-TD (only 2 more drives per team) is <3%.

Office space clip gave me a good lol... but I'm interested in why you guys think its a bad idea?

why would the teams have to score a td? they could just trade field goals for an hour

and scoring % goes up when you have to score

this is silliness that doesnt even correct a problem with the game. there is no issue with overtime now, given the new rules and that you can almost always kickoff for a touchback im not so sure getting the ball first is even optimal anymore. if you are losing when the clock hits 0:00 then tough **** you should have scored more points while there was time on the clock, unless you are mack brown in the big 12 championship then you can just bitch to get a second added back.

If you disallow extra point attempts, wouldn't it make it MORE likely for a game in this scenario to end in a tie? If you disallow kicking attempts in the extra point attempt, then you might be on to something. Force them to complete a 2 point conversion.

Still, injury risks for an extra 15 minute period wouldn't outweigh the benefits.

playing a whole quarter would be pretty awful and definitely doesnt belong itt. i dont want 4 hour games on the reg

Factoring in FGs doesn't really change the math that much. The only way that this would drag on for 1+ hours would be if they somehow scored the exact same way against each other over and over and over and over. So it would have to be TD-TD-TD-TD-TD... or FG-FG-FG-FG-FG-TD-TD-TD... etc. When was the last time you were watching an NFL game and there was a string of 5 or more back to back to back scoring drives all with the exact same result? It would be incredibly rare, and yet also epic and amazing.

It clearly is optimal by virtue of the fact that if you get a TD on the opening drive then you win and the other team's offense never even gets to step onto the field.

This is just status quo bias.

If someone suggested baseball be run with a clock rather than giving both teams an equal number of outs, everyone would agree that it would be idiotic and unfair, because it adds a needless element of randomness in the fact that it heavily favors whoever is at bat (or, in the case of football, who has the ball) when the clock is getting close to 0. Would you accept "tough ****, score more points earlier" as a proper rebuttal to this argument?

It's a perfectly fine rebuttal in football. Baseball controls game time with the number of innings, so each team is guaranteed the same number of chances to score, adding a clock doesn't make any sense and would give an inherent advantage to the team getting to bat first. In football this advantage doesn't exist, both teams have equal opportunity to get the ball (each start one half with it) and how long you control it is a direct result of how the game is played, and is therefore an important skill. You gain absolutely nothing by implementing your idea; it doesn't make it any more fair, it removes a significant tactical element, and potentially makes games unnecessarily long.

Pretty sure this is what he meant, just not phrased quite clearly.

if you really think with this logic then you might as well stop posting because anything you say is just trolling or coming from an unintelligent source

if the team that got the ball first had to start on the 1 yard line would that still be optimal since "they could win by getting a TD"

its like people think the rules that have been developed over 100 years for sports just came to some guy randomly and he declared "yeah lets do it that way"

crazy how for completely different sports the best way to do things is also different

Anything that makes it more difficult for the tard coaches/QBs to screw up is a bad thing, and making clock management easier for Reid/Garrett/Romo/Norv would be awful. Why deprive us of the joy of watching those guys screw up? It might even discourage ELIte from going into his robo two minute drill mode, which would really be awful for me

NFL players throwing imaginary flags asking for penalties should be penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. Hate that ****.

Just narrow the uprights would be a lot easier.

Read somewhere that only one XP has been missed all season (this was before yesterday, when another one was missed. I don't know if they were outright misses or botched snap/hold).

Obviously, a play that is 99.5+% to be successful is pretty silly. Either lengthen the XP (make it from the 10 yard line or so, still fairly easy, but not 99.5% easy. Or make the 2 point conversion mandatory.

If a defensive lineman jumps offside, you should be allowed to hold him to avoid having him hit nail your QB. Offsetting penalties in that situation are dumb, it's effectively the same thing as unabated to the QB that just went uncalled.

When 00:00 hits, if the team with the ball is winning, they win.

If not, if they are tied, it's sudden death. If the team with the ball is losing, they must score on their possession. If they take the lead, they win. If they tie it up, it becomes sudden death.

TURRIBLE

Why even bother having a clock, just have a set number of possessions if you're worried about fairness or whatever nambypamby baloney you're pushing.

I like this.

CFL: Kicking team is awarded 1 point if they keep the defense/return team in the end zone. Happens on FG attempts as their end zone is also yds. deep.

XFL had zero PAT's, had to go for 2 every time!!!

Nothing wrong with this - the refs miss a lot of stuff. And it would be really easy for refs to get emotional and throw flags for what they misinterpret as complaining. Let the players whine.

WAT? This sounds terrible. 2 minute drills at the end of a football game are basically what separates good teams from bad ones. You basically want the drive to end no matter what the clock says? Dumb.

How do people feel about the Delay of Game penalty for spiking a ball? I think it's 15 yards and seems stupid.

Hi David Stern

Meh. I actually like the XP. It's an easy play, but it's cool to see when a team messes it up. That and it's kind of a staple of tradition to get the touchdown to 7 points. I like it the way it is.

make it more rugby style, the guy who scores has to be the one who kicks the XP.

would be pretty good for the lulz