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Old 03-21-2012, 01:24 PM   #1876
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4th and 6th
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:30 PM   #1877
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Lol at the first time Sanchize throws a few INTs in the first half. Although Rex Ryan will probably just moon the crowd.
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:38 PM   #1878
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Think he is talking about betfair or some other betting exchange.
i have all major betting exchange odds as well
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #1879
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Peyton Manning's deep ball already looked to be on the way out, so he's already not peak Manning most likely even fully healthy. Still, less then peak Peyton is still legendary in multiple ways. It's really hard to attach some kind of numeric probability that he gets seriously injured, so it's hard to say where to rank him in terms of "Who would I want for 2012, all things considered".
The loss of Peytons deep ball stems from his injury. Its been rumored to have been affecting him for several years but he played on because he's a leader of men.

As long as he's playing he's always the best. Then its something like:

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Old 03-21-2012, 05:15 PM   #1880
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Quick comparison for those who have Peyton > Rivers (i.e. everyone but me and Smiglet)

2008
Rivers: 105.5 QB rating, 7.7 ANY/A
Peyton: 95.0 QB rating, 6.9 ANY/A

2009
Rivers: 104.4 QB rating, 8.0 ANY/A
Peyton: 99.9 QB rating, 7.5 ANY/A

2010
Rivers: 101.8 QB rating, 7.7 ANY/A
Peyton: 91.9 QB rating, 6.5 ANY/A

2011
Rivers: 88.7 QB rating, 6.6 ANY/A
Peyton: Missed the entire season after having his 3rd and 4th neck surgeries, a question mark to ever regain the same arm strength

2012
Rivers: Age 31, looking to bounce back from a down season with the same team where he's played for his entire career.
Peyton: Age 35, going to a new system in Denver after being released by the team where he'd played his entire career due to his injury issues.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:22 PM   #1881
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i have all major betting exchange odds as well
Seems like about $200 were matched at 110-1 and 100-1 on Betfair.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:37 PM   #1882
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LOL Chargers
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #1883
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Indeed. It's kind of amazing how that awful coaching staff and defense managed to squander such great seasons from the QB position.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #1884
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the first game is 5 1/2 months away. who here wants to bet against peyton ****ing manning knowing whatever offence he/they have installed by then?

ironically i'm encouraged by the fact that peyton was having these issues before the surgeries.

a) he already knows what it's like to play with his arm in this condition
b) he should be in less pain now
c) he now has the potential to heal
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:53 PM   #1885
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Indeed. It's kind of amazing how that awful coaching staff and defense managed to squander such great seasons from the QB position.
Their rivals in the AFC west have been mediocre at best for several years. They can't even win the division. When Rivers faces an actual defense in the playoffs he is well.... not good enough. I think the Chargers are the most overrated team in the NFL the last 5-6 years.....LOL Chargers.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:59 PM   #1886
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Their rivals in the AFC west have been mediocre at best for several years. They can't even win the division. When Rivers faces an actual defense in the playoffs he is well.... not good enough. I think the Chargers are the most overrated team in the NFL the last 5-6 years.....LOL Chargers.
Real answer to this is obviously Giants. I guarantee you a bunch of casual fans actually think they were the best team in the league those years they won the Super Bowl. LOL!
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:28 PM   #1887
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favre switched twice in 2 years
came out playing great the first ten or so games with the jets and played great all year with the vikings-the adjustment should be way easier for manning
he went back to the same exact offense in minnesota that he had been playing in green bay. peyton is going to make an entire offense adjust to his system

not comparable.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:50 PM   #1888
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Iggy is so insufferable.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:51 PM   #1889
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:13 PM   #1890
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It's not my fault that every single time I post, 10 different people have to come up with a bunch of ridiculous stuff ripping on Rivers/San Diego, even if I'm posting on a largely unrelated topic. It's not even like they're my team or anything, that's the Eagles who I'm super pumped for in 2012. I just get sucked into defending them because people spend so much time and effort ripping them.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:29 PM   #1891
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:00 PM   #1892
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All u say peyton is a class act and all but the man took away another mans job ! Class act my ass ,he knew denver was tebows,the colts did not want his has been back so he steals other peoples jobs!. Hope peyton plays 1 game
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:02 PM   #1893
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All u say peyton is a class act and all but the man took away another mans job ! Class act my ass ,he knew denver was tebows,the colts did not want his has been back so he steals other peoples jobs!. Hope peyton plays 1 game
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:05 PM   #1894
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All u say peyton is a class act and all but the man took away another mans job ! Class act my ass ,he knew denver was tebows,the colts did not want his has been back so he steals other peoples jobs!. Hope peyton plays 1 game
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:57 PM   #1895
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Quick comparison for those who have Peyton > Rivers (i.e. everyone but me and Smiglet)

2008
Rivers: 105.5 QB rating, 7.7 ANY/A
Peyton: 95.0 QB rating, 6.9 ANY/A

2009
Rivers: 104.4 QB rating, 8.0 ANY/A
Peyton: 99.9 QB rating, 7.5 ANY/A

2010
Rivers: 101.8 QB rating, 7.7 ANY/A
Peyton: 91.9 QB rating, 6.5 ANY/A

2011
Rivers: 88.7 QB rating, 6.6 ANY/A
Peyton: Missed the entire season after having his 3rd and 4th neck surgeries, a question mark to ever regain the same arm strength

2012
Rivers: Age 31, looking to bounce back from a down season with the same team where he's played for his entire career.
Peyton: Age 35, going to a new system in Denver after being released by the team where he'd played his entire career due to his injury issues.
If you were going to go all the way back to 08, should have just included 06 and 07 instead of cherry picking.

Makes you look less biased, and your point would still be valid.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:38 AM   #1896
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If you were going to go all the way back to 08, should have just included 06 and 07 instead of cherry picking.

Makes you look less biased, and your point would still be valid.
Last 4 seasons seemed like a pretty accurate sample considering that the 2 years before that were Rivers' first 2 seasons as a starter, and he didn't start to peak until 2008. It's the same reason that if you were evaluating Drew Brees in 2008, you wouldn't want to include the '02 and '03 seasons (his first 2 seasons a starter) where he had QB ratings of 76.9 and 67.5 to see how he was likely to do going forward.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:49 AM   #1897
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Rivers (or someone like Rodgers) first two seasons as a starter aren't really the same as for a lot of other guys, because it was his 3rd year in the NFL by the time he became the starter. It makes for a much easier transition, and his QB rating his 1st year as a starter was better than his QB rating last year.
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Old 03-22-2012, 02:07 AM   #1898
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btw iggy if you want to bet on chargers vs denver at even money to win the west we can talk
Iggy he already laid me 2-1 on this bet. LETS GO CHARGERS!!
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:02 PM   #1899
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All u say peyton is a class act and all but the man took away another mans job ! Class act my ass ,he knew denver was tebows,the colts did not want his has been back so he steals other peoples jobs!. Hope peyton plays 1 game
It's part of the game. Manning will do well for the Broncos, better than Tebow has done in my opinion. They may have gotten lucky this past season, but I don't think they would have done much this upcoming year with him. But we will see this fall.
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Iggy he already laid me 2-1 on this bet. LETS GO CHARGERS!!
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