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08-16-2012 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
re karak (dids got in there first, ****ing up my continuity)

A belief that is strengthened by the Freeh report, as I believe it details how they (Spanier, et. al) felt the need to contact the 2nd Mile after either the '98 or '01 incident to inform them of the incident.

I mean it seems like the book almost has to be too much of a puff piece at this point. Wasn't it Paterno who hired him to write the book? Also just from a timing perspective, I'm not really sure he could have thrown out everything he had worked on for months, and then started writing the book staring him in the face begging to be written, and get it edited and all that in time for his release date. Not to mention, it would very much not be the book that his employer wanted.

It does kind of suck for everyone though. I mean we basically had an embedded journalist with Paterno during the past year, and we'll probably end up learning more nonsense about what made him a great man, and less about his uncontrollable sobbing during his last few days.
Well, it'll cover his entire life. So yeah, a lot of it will talk about the good things he has done in the distant past.

I don't expect the book to pass judgment on his overall legacy. Only to report what he knows to be fact. If a significant amount of book is not dedicated to this scandal, then I will be extremely disappointed because it is an instrumental part of his life. Since the case is still active and more information is still being revealed, I don't expect a whole lot of detail.
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08-16-2012 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
I'm talking about any level of involvement that would be deserving of criminal punishment. Basically what would it take for SM to be investigated? Sandusky or victims making claims? Or could the feds go in at any time with probable cause and start sniffing around?
The duty to report in PA might not apply to 2d Mile, and in any event looks to be just a misdemeanor. Doubt they'll waste resources on it.
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08-16-2012 , 05:04 PM
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Wasn't it Paterno who hired him to write the book?
I do not believe this to be the case.
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08-16-2012 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
I do not believe this to be the case.
Not hired. He was authorized by Paterno to write it, which makes it an official biography.
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08-17-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Joe Paterno had to be prodded by his family to read the grand jury report regarding Jerry Sandusky and did not understand some of its graphic terminology, according to a new book.
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The book also indicates Paterno didn't comprehend all the terms in the report, asking his son what sodomy meant.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz23rHhIr1V
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08-17-2012 , 09:53 PM
I want some credit for titling the thread 'Penn State covers up for a pedophile' from Day 1.
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08-17-2012 , 09:54 PM
"Oh, so it's like analingus, but with your thingy' Joe said, after hearing his son's response.
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08-17-2012 , 09:56 PM
'Ah okay, when I was at Brown, we called that 'Going down to Woonsocket'', Joe explained
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08-17-2012 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
I want some credit for titling the thread 'Penn State covers up for a pedophile' from Day 1.
A real Internet hero
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08-17-2012 , 11:00 PM
bdidd is soooo mad.

just switch teams bro. you don't have to be sooooooo mad all the time. root for the high school you went to. root for the steelers.

b/c it's soooo funny how maaaaaad you are. like someone kicked your puppy. hahahahaaaaa

lol @ u.

doesn't even matter what you say back to me because you're bdidd, the guy who gets mad that people are mad about institutionalized child rape.

lol @ u.
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08-17-2012 , 11:29 PM
I once watched a documentary about North Korea. They went to a house where the grandmother went blind years ago. She said the worst part about her blindness is that she would never be able to see the Dear Leader Kim Jong Il and properly thank him for allowing her to have happiness.

I wonder if bdidd feels like he disappointed his family and the Dear Leader JoePa by not attending Penn State.


At least you only made a fool of yourself on an online message board. This guy hurt his wallet and skin for his love of a school he never attended.
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According to Busted Coverage, Zack Smartt, a self-proclaimed fourth generation Alabama fan who went to Middle Tennessee State University, spent $1,700 on a massive tattoo on his back that displays his love of the Crimson Tide.

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08-17-2012 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
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Joe Paterno had to be prodded by his family to read the grand jury report regarding Jerry Sandusky and did not understand some of its graphic terminology, according to a new book.

The book also indicates Paterno didn't comprehend all the terms in the report, asking his son what sodomy meant.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz23rHhIr1V
I'm a medium and will channel Joe Pa from the grave...

Wait. What went into what? That is seriously ****ing possible? Sue told me that wasn't ****ing possible! I was married to that bitch for how long and she wouldn't let me put it in there! I brought it up over and over for 50 ****ing years! You are telling me Sandusky stuck it in a bunch of kids and my wife convinced me it wouldn't fit in her stretched out ass?
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08-18-2012 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Aytumious
I'm a medium and will channel Joe Pa from the grave...

Wait. What went into what? That is seriously ****ing possible? Sue told me that wasn't ****ing possible! I was married to that bitch for how long and she wouldn't let me put it in there! I brought it up over and over for 50 ****ing years! You are telling me Sandusky stuck it in a bunch of kids and my wife convinced me it wouldn't fit in her stretched out ass?
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08-18-2012 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal
I wonder if bdidd feels like he disappointed his family and the Dear Leader JoePa by not attending Penn State.
oh he's maaaaaaad he didn't. it probably makes him feel like less of a man. and now he has to defend the rapers and raper-coverers and raper-nothing-going-on-here's.

it's pretty sad actually. i mean, think about it. how SAD is bdidd when you actually think about it?

poor bdidd.
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08-18-2012 , 09:32 PM
Lol
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08-21-2012 , 04:12 PM
Joe Paterno 'Despised' Sandusky Long Before Sex Scandal, New Book Claims

hmm...maybe the book will say paterno hated the guy because he raped children. still a despicable person, but only slightly less despicable!

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Former Sports Illustrated writer Joe Posnanski describes in his new biography, "Paterno," how tension built between the two men as Paterno grew frustrated with Sandusky, whom he thought....
good start. good start

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...paid more attention to his charity, The Second Mile, and children than to the Nittany Lions football team.


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08-21-2012 , 06:06 PM
Classic PSU
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08-21-2012 , 07:05 PM
Sandusky also didn't drink as much as the Paternos did.
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08-22-2012 , 12:40 PM
Reviews for Pos' book are out. Sounds pretty lame.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/19...mplicates.html

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Among the frustrations, a casual follower of this story might be surprised to learn from Posnanski’s book that Paterno and Sandusky were not friends; not only that, but these two men who’d worked alongside each other for 30 years “despised each other.”

Their relationship seems to have been a symbiosis of barely suppressed enmity. Posnanski mentions what the family calls Paterno’s “Why I Hate Jerry Sandusky” memo — written in 1993 — but does not quote from it. The gist seems to be that Paterno thought Sandusky had lost his fire for coaching.

If that were the case, a reader wants to know, why did Paterno wait another five years to make it clear to Sandusky that he would not be head coach?

According to the independent report headed by former FBI director Louis Freeh, that discussion took place in 1998 just a month or so before the campus police investigated Sandusky for inappropriate behavior with an 11-year-old boy in a locker room shower. This shouldn’t be confused with a similar incident in 2001, which had been reported to Paterno by graduate assistant Mike McQueary. Paterno contended to the Sandusky grand jury that he knew nothing about the 1998 assault.

Except, well, it seems he did. The Freeh Report includes — and Posnanski mentions — a one-line email from May 1998. Athletic director Tim Curley is asking for an update on “Jerry,” because “Coach is anxious to know where this stands.”

Let’s pause here. In Posnanski’s words, Paterno told the grand jury he “had never heard another rumor about Sandusky, but admitted that things could have been said in his presence that he had forgotten.”

Men in their early 80s do forget things. But it strains credulity to believe that Paterno, whose players often praised his remarkable memory for things like the cheesecake their mothers had served him on recruiting visits, forgot allegations of pederasty involving an employee whom he not only hated but who had founded and run a charity for wayward adolescent boys.

This is one of many contradictions that begin to trouble the reader. Up until now, even when Paterno has been a jerk — and his players usually thought he was that — the reader has liked Posnanski’s Paterno, a Brooklyn boy who majored in English at Brown and built a rural school’s football program into a powerhouse.

Posnanski deliberately does not dwell on Sandusky and the scandal, preferring to keep his attention squarely on Paterno.

Two illustrative vignettes bookend Posnanski’s tale. Early on, Posnanski tells the Paterno family’s “shyster” story: At a restaurant many years ago, one of the coach’s children ordered an all-you-can-eat salad. Another daughter, toward the end of the meal, snatched a slice of cucumber off her sister’s plate. The coach accused her of being a shyster, of stealing from the restaurant’s owners — it’s not an “all you and your sister can eat” place — and stormed out.
What an *******.

Pos on his book: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...rno/57081354/1

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Nobody would argue — and certainly my book does not argue — that the good Joe Paterno did in his life should shield him from the horrors of his mistakes. Some would argue, especially in the white-hot emotion sparked by the latest revelations, that Paterno's role in the Jerry Sandusky crimes invalidates whatever good he might have done. My book does not argue that either. My book, I believe, lets the reader make up his or her own mind. When people ask me if Penn State was right in tearing down Joe Paterno's statue in light of the Freeh Report's conclusion, I ask a different question: "Should they have built a statue to him in the first place?" When people ask me if the NCAA was right in unleashing draconian penalties against Penn State, I ask a different question: "Should they have held up Joe Paterno as a paragon of purity and virtue for more than four decades?"
I realize some people have opinions about me and the book even before it comes out. This is one of the most emotional stories in memory. Children were damaged by a devious predator in a quiet little place that calls itself Happy Valley, and it is all but impossible to think of anything worse. Sandusky was not stopped — not by the police, not by child services, not by other authorities and child abuse professionals, not by the charity where he worked, not by the school where he had coached and, perhaps most striking to the rest of us, not by the football coach who had once been his boss, the head football coach who had professed all his life to stand for right. Emotions are raw. And how could they be anything else?
As a writer, I tried to take the measure of the man who was that head football coach. I believe I have written about his life with as much honesty as I have. I have reported as many of the facts of the Sandusky case as I could uncover (including some new ones). But I also objectively wrote about why so many people admired and idolized Joe Paterno in the first place. I wrote at length about his youthful idealism. I wrote at length about his unprecedented success as a coach. I wrote at length about the last 15 years of his life when he would not quit. I wrote at length about the end.
No, I don't feel about Joe Paterno the same way I did when I started writing the book. But I don't feel about him the way his most blistering critics feel. He was a human being, filled with ideals and flaws, honesty and hypocrisy, charity and selfishness, modesty and the refusal to abdicate his throne. There was little simple about him. I chased the complicated story of a man and his long life. I hope that is the story I wrote.
Wrong. Paterno was obviously either a charlatan all along or got completely corruptedby power decades ago (and thus never really a paragon of strength and virtue to begin with).
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08-22-2012 , 12:57 PM
I love Posnanski, but much of The Soul of Baseball, his book on Buck O'Neil, seemed smoothed over and fictionalized. I think it's fine to tell tall tales about a likable guy, especially as much of that man's life is undocumented. But these ridiculous anecdotes for Paterno...don't really work so well. The Atlantic also had a review that essentially accused Posnanski of making things up, which unfortunately wouldn't surprise me.
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08-22-2012 , 01:41 PM
Joe Paterno: Caring about the integrity of all-you-can-eat salads more than the integrity of kids' buttholes
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08-22-2012 , 02:20 PM
New Yorker interviews former Pedo State Pres Graham Spanier:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...y-scandal.html
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08-22-2012 , 07:28 PM
I bought the book. Will give you a review once I finish it.
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08-22-2012 , 11:38 PM
This book is quite frustrating. I'm only through 25% of the book, but a lot of it is anecdotal and pretty much endlessly praises the guy. Any negatives are either spun into positives or are barely mentioned. His penchant for profanity and temper tantrums early in his career is spun into being very passionate. His lack of presence at home is construed as being devoted to his employer and job. I really haven't learned anything that I didn't already know. At the moment, they've only briefly alluded to the scandal and have mentioned Jerry Sandusky once in a paragraph unrelated to the scandal. So, I can't say much about that is covered.

There are some real gems in this book though. I read this and just marvel at the hypocrisy that Joe showed in his last days:

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He hammered his children with the same phrase he used on his players and everyone who ever saw him at a coaching clinic: "It's not enough to be fair. You must appear to be fair." This was a constant force in his fatherhood. Doing the right thing was not enough, he told his children. They had to go one step higher than the right thing. This, as much as anything, is what his children thought about at the end.
Apparently, one step higher than the right thing is just to tell Gary Schultz and Tim Curley about child rape and ignore it otherwise. Way to practice what you preach.

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Joe Paterno: Caring about the integrity of all-you-can-eat salads more than the integrity of kids' buttholes
I just read the page of the book about the all-you-can-eat restaurant and LOL'd after reading your post.
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08-23-2012 , 12:59 AM
I am sure Posnanski was given Joe's approval because of the type of book they thought he would write. He wrote a bunch of stuff and then the scandal broke. At that point there isn't any real way he can write the real story and still keep the Paternos happy. This story needs an investigative journalist treatment. That's not really Posnanski's thing.
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