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11-08-2011 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
Why? People directly affiliated with the football program were providing Sandusky the trust, facilities and a reputation for him to rape what could be 30+ children over a very long period of time.
What does "ending the football" program accomplish that "burning everyone responsible at the stake" (which I'm wholly in favor of) doesn't, except punish a bunch of people who were NOT responsible?
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11-08-2011 , 01:50 PM
Well I hope to God Urban Meyer doesn't replace him.
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11-08-2011 , 01:51 PM
at the end of the day its all about the players. even though joe is hugee. Cant just terminate the ****ing football program. that is ****ty journalism or whatever you call it.




It would be sick to see paterno step down or get fired during the season. not the way I expected him to go out
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11-08-2011 , 01:52 PM
Seems like his whole staff has to be considered tainted by this at this point. Do they just **** can everybody and bring in somebody totally from the outside to finish up the season?
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11-08-2011 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Well I hope to God Urban Meyer doesn't replace him.
why not? he is prolly the best coach on the market right now
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11-08-2011 , 01:52 PM
Dyenimator,

Odds of Paterno coaching Saturday are <<<100% imo
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11-08-2011 , 01:53 PM
It would suck if Paterno does bring down the administration and is revered for it.
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11-08-2011 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Well I hope to God Urban Meyer doesn't replace him.
I can't imagine Urban wanting to step into this disaster
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11-08-2011 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetto
why not? he is prolly the best coach on the market right now
I would think Meyer would have stayed at UF if he really wanted to coach. There really isn't a college job out there that is any better.

He'd be an idiot to take a job at PSU for obv reasons
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11-08-2011 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
Dyenimator,

Odds of Paterno coaching Saturday are <<<100% imo
Well if he's not, I'll admit that I'm wrong. It's happened in the past and will happen in the future.
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11-08-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Seems like his whole staff has to be considered tainted by this at this point. Do they just **** can everybody and bring in somebody totally from the outside to finish up the season?
This seems like the best course of action, to me. None of the staff is going to be there with a new guy next season anyway, might as well purge everyone and try to let the players finish this season with a tiny, miniscule shred of dignity.
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11-08-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetto
why not? he is prolly the best coach on the market right now
Worst possible outcome for Michigan who relies on poaching Ohio and WPIAL recruits. You have someone who immediately will be able to shore up those connections.
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11-08-2011 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
This seems like the best course of action, to me. None of the staff is going to be there with a new guy next season anyway, might as well purge everyone and try to let the players finish this season with a tiny, miniscule shred of dignity.
I'd think they would try to turn it over on an interim basis to someone who had no ties whatsoever to Sandusky, ie, someone who was never on staff when he was, if that person even exists. It might be the strength and conditioning coach, though.
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11-08-2011 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
- President should lose his job.
- AD should lose his job.
- Paterno should lose his job.
- Ginger should lose his job.
- Penn State should fold their football program. As a program they were implicit in allowing this old man to basically conduct a sick child sex ring by allowing him to use their facilities, reputation and confidences to do so.
Then they'd only be screwing more kids.
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11-08-2011 , 01:56 PM
This interview is completely insane. How do current Penn State players even look a lot of these people in the eye and play for them? I wonder what practices have been like this week.

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Victim Six cried when he read the 23-page grand jury presentment released Saturday, his mother said. And not for himself.

“He had no idea how bad it was,” she said. “He was lucky. He only had that one contact with him.”

It allegedly happened in May 1998, following a tour of the football locker rooms. Her son and another boy, both 11, shared a shower with Sandusky.

When he got home he said, ‘If you’re wondering why my hair is wet, we took a shower together,’ and ran into his room, his mom recalls.

She called police.

But after a six-week investigation that included the mother confronting Sandusky in her home as police listened in the other room, Sandusky was cleared.

Then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decided there wasn’t enough evidence.
For anyone who hasn't read it or knew about it, Gricer's the dude that ended up missing (been missing for years) with his computer in a river. Unreal.
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11-08-2011 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Idk, the thousands of boosters, millions of fans, and 85 scholarship players might be affected. Oh and the economic well-being of the university and athletic department which profits off football saturdays.
LOL...who cares if they are affected. Penn State football was directly used, with the highest "powers" of being's knowledge, to rape 10 year children. And not just a couple...probably as many as 20.

Also, Penn State's recruiting is going to go way down. I have already heard a few top recruits considering Penn State basically saying "yuck, I don't want to play for child rapists."
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
clearly a break between university prez and general football deity joepa going on right now.
Welcome to five years ago.

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
It would suck if Paterno does bring down the administration and is revered for it.
He won't be revered regardless of what happens next, with the exception of the small cadre of Penn State Cultists.

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Originally Posted by Ashington
I would think Meyer would have stayed at UF if he really wanted to coach. There really isn't a college job out there that is any better.

He'd be an idiot to take a job at PSU for obv reasons
The OSU reporter's twitter feed that was linked a few posts back seem to indicate that Meyer would be interested. Don't know how accurate that guy is though.
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
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penn state football isn't going anywhere
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Below is a link to the Grand Jury document. Must-read for those trying to follow the story.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college...grand-jury.pdf

Below is the radio interview everyone keeps citing. Must-listen all the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqa9OvJvx2I
Just re-quoting - Kim Jones interview is very eye-opening, but reading the actual charges (and description of Sandusky's crimes) is just brutal and terrifying. Considering it seems every single one of his acts was highly opportunistic, that he was impulsive and almost got "caught" many times, and was basically around little boys his entire life... I'd agree with the poster who mentioned Sandusky's victims could number in the 100s. This is seriously so ****ed up.

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Originally Posted by Triumph36
as someone who has expressed anti oski sentiments before, i think oski is doing fine work itt. he should probably back off a bit, but he's made several jokes and provided legal clarification.
I like Oski - the only problem I have is that (it seems) he was clarifying the legal POV for Paterno's actions without all the facts. IANAL... but it seems possible Paterno could actually face criminal charges at this point?

Actually would be intereresting to hear an updated POV on this: with what Paterno knew, as a University employee, who are held to much higher standards than your average citizen... with what he knew in 1998 and 2002, especially 2002, could he be legally culpable?
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
Pretty sure the NCAA would give those players free transfers. Plenty of solid football programs in the state of PA to go to...I don't know...maybe the 11th ranked team in the nation(in d2)...notably...Kutztown University?
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
It would suck if Paterno does bring down the administration and is revered for it.
Yeah true. This is a pretty good path to getting everything out there though and everyone blown up from both the football and administrative side of the school.

Paterno being fired >>>> Paterno retiring at the end of the year too

Plus it opens up the door for Paterno turning against the AD/VP/President and blowing up what actually happened (while distancing himself obviously, but whatever the damage is done to him).
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11-08-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
This interview is completely insane. How do current Penn State players even look a lot of these people in the eye and play for them? I wonder what practices have been like this week.
the managers could be hte ones who are the most innocent on the staff. They might've heard the rumors. but are in he clear
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11-08-2011 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
LOL...who cares if they are affected. Penn State football was directly used, with the highest "powers" of being's knowledge, to rape 10 year children. And not just a couple...probably as many as 20.

Also, Penn State's recruiting is going to go way down. I have already heard a few top recruits considering Penn State basically saying "yuck, I don't want to play for child rapists."
Well the university as a whole will be screwed if they eliminate the program. I know plenty of schools operate without a major money-grabber like PSU does, but when you've relied on it for 40 years like they have, it would be pretty tough to learn to live without it.
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11-08-2011 , 01:59 PM
PSU fans still think they're gonna get Urban Meyer. Well I got some news for ya...
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11-08-2011 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Needle77
Pretty sure the NCAA would give those players free transfers. Plenty of solid football programs in the state of PA to go to...I don't know...maybe the 11th ranked team in the nation(in d2)...notably...Kutztown University?
also are expected to have a top 2 finish in the east for basketball this season.
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