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I love people saying how taking away wins is just a personal shot. Like, JoePa would have been fired at basically any point over the last 10 years at least if this stuff came to light. lol at keeping those wins to preserve his legacy.

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07-23-2012 , 10:03 AM

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07-23-2012 , 10:03 AM

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The guys modifying this wikipedia article are a lot slower. They've only noted the 1998 vacated wins, not anything after it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_St...in_the_Big_Ten)

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07-23-2012 , 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by phillydilly

Sara Ganim ‏@sganim
Big Ten issuing additional #PSU sanctions at 11a
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07-23-2012 , 10:04 AM

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Basic Mob Mentality:

1.Sandusky was a pedophile
2.pedophilia is bad
3.Any and all possible punishments to anyone related to this in anyway should be enforced, regardless of whether or not they make sense or not
4.Anyone who points out that they make no sense, must like pedophiles

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07-23-2012 , 10:06 AM

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Infallible logic

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07-23-2012 , 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

nothing means more to paterno and his delusional pathetic supporters than that stupid ****ing wins record, taking that away absolutely punishes the right people

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07-23-2012 , 10:06 AM

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GoldnEagl

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

I don't know why people are respecting the NCAA and/or happy about this. This is an utter joke.

The punishment going forward is fine. The vacating wins bull**** is the dumbest crap ever. It's "kind of dumb" when the offending school actually cheated at football, but "vacating" wins over a real life/non football issue is ******ed. The whole concept of it is ridiculous. Explain to me with a straight face how Penn State "did not win" any of their games in the last 13 years. You punish crimes with prison and probation, and fines. Not "vacating" football wins.

We should just handle everything like this. The Bills no longer won any games in the 70's because O.J. Simpson murdered two people twenty years later. None of Ty Cobb's hits actually happened since he may have killed someone as well, also Hitler was no longer Chancellor of Germany in the 30s and 40's. He now lost that election because he was evil.

He covered up rampant pedophilia and child rape for decades, dude, in order to keep his football program intact. If you cannot see these penalties are, if anything, lenient, you've got some work to do.

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07-23-2012 , 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

For the record I am not a PSU fan, or even a fan of college sports at all. I think the NCAA is a laughing stock, and stuff like this is the reason. It's incredible to me I have people "laughing" at my logic. It's infuriating to me people actually think this makes sense.

You're arguably right that wins have no correlation to the crimes.

And that's the best part. The NCAA decided that it simply will not tolerate any semblance of success or class that includes ass-raping children being associated with the NCAA. I applaud them. It's not about a precedent, either. It's straight up about pummeling Penn State, and that's ****ing awesome.

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07-23-2012 , 10:07 AM

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Woke up to this facebook exchange:

BC: I will not be vacating any Joe Paterno wins.
LizzyH: Despicable
BC: The NCAAs ruling absolutely was
LizzyH: your comment just confirmed my previous statement.
LizzyH: let me rephrase that, your comment confirms that penn state and joe paterno enabling child molesters for years to protect football is DISGUSTING. you should be ashamed.

thank you, facebook.

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07-23-2012 , 10:08 AM

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If JoePa were alive today he'd say "Jokes on them. The Deaf Penalty and I can barely hear anyway."

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07-23-2012 , 10:08 AM

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And the reason you're only "arguably" right is lol @ the idea of the program being able to win games following whatever moment the same crimes were revealed. Good ol' Joe wouldn't be coaching or recruiting, for starters. . .

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07-23-2012 , 10:09 AM

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LOL. But they CANT TAKE AWAY WINS. I REMEMBER THEM OCCURRING. I cannot believe people are such sheep that they actually buy this bull****. We write things down so we remember them. Now so much gets written down people now take the "official write-down" of an event as more "official" than ****ing see it. Who cares if the NCAA has "deleted history." lol, this is just so ******ed. I'd be 1000x more OK with the "detah penalty" punishment than this nonsense.

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07-23-2012 , 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

People are laughing at you because you're missing the point.

We all know the wins cannot be "truly" wiped away.

The point NCAA, and rest of the world, are making is wins without human decency are meaningless and will not be recognized.

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07-23-2012 , 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

The scandal was permitted to go on because PSU valued their football program moreso than boys not getting raped. It's perfectly logical to punish the program.

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07-23-2012 , 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator

Michigan needs to reignite that wpial pipeline.

Pitt and OSU gonna cockblock your stupid school

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07-23-2012 , 10:10 AM

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If the NCAA had been all "we're also going to paint the JoePa statue pink and we're going to have it ceremoniously delivered to Sandusky's jail cell, where incidentally he is often seen sobbing about the wreck of his life," I would have thought that appropriate as well.

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07-23-2012 , 10:10 AM

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Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom
"If you think PSU football got no competitive advantage from Sandusky cover-up: The decision to do it is prima facie evidence that they did."
Idk, just a thought...

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07-23-2012 , 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

The school the kids are transferring to must have scholarships left, correct? Presumably a school like OSU has very few of them left, so he can't just pick up their entire offensive line or something.

I think someone posted itt that they can take on without penalty as long as they make a reduction next year. So I am sure there are coaches all across the land scheduling trips to P-State and whatnot.

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07-23-2012 , 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverman

nothing means more to paterno and his delusional pathetic supporters than that stupid ****ing wins record, taking that away absolutely punishes the right people

lol, his "supporters" I am not supporting him, I am POINTING out you can't delete history. I don't care if Paterno dropped an atomic bomb on someone, he STILL won the games from 199-2011. lol Why do people acknowledge punishments like this??? How can the NCAA DELETE history???

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07-23-2012 , 10:11 AM

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CPHoya

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God I love the 20 scholarship thing. That is crippling.

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07-23-2012 , 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme

Bro. Now when sports radio talks about the wins record, it won't belong to a dude who was down with ****ing kids if that meant his program could go on as it was. Why is this troubling you?

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07-23-2012 , 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by huet38

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom
"If you think PSU football got no competitive advantage from Sandusky cover-up: The decision to do it is prima facie evidence that they did."
Idk, just a thought...

They also used the football program to help keep their players out of legal trouble. That does not jive with NCAA policy as well.

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07-23-2012 , 10:12 AM

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Would be interesting to see if the NCAA faces any potential legal ramifications for having potentially overstepped their bounds... Note I have no horse in the race and am a soccer fan.

Also what happened to Bernie Fine?