Penn State Covers Up For a Pedophile: The Cult is Alive and Well - Page 521 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

"Sat down and calculated the pluses and minuses and, man, the math just added up" is obviously an absurd way to characterize what likely happened/happens. But human beings respond to incentives.

Right, and I think that in comparison to criminal charges, the loss of powerful job positions, and the vocal public shame involved in being outed as being directly part of the coverup, giving the institution that you formerly were a part of the death penalty provides zero additional incentive to avoid future cover ups. Karak's point about the death penalty providing an incentive for those in governance positions but not directly involved in the cover up to keep an even tighter leash on things is a good one that I hadn't considered, but as far as a deterrent factor against future direct conspirators, just no.

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07-18-2012 , 10:36 PM

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Tumaterminator

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isn't 'repeatedly lied under oath' redundant?

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07-18-2012 , 10:37 PM

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Dudd, if you were a mid-level guy at the next hyper-corrupt university and you heard rumblings of something going on, would you be more or less likely to try and investigate and/or use your knowledge to fix it if you knew your entire program might go up in radioactive ash if the cover-up got exposed?

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07-18-2012 , 10:38 PM

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RacersEdge

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

So you're saying the report concludes that someone covered up the molestation, so it must have been JoePa??

Maybe I'm misunderstand what you're saying...

Im saying they found some information that seems to support one theory re:JP

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07-18-2012 , 10:40 PM

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Loretta8

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

isn't 'repeatedly lied under oath' redundant?

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07-18-2012 , 10:43 PM

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Karak

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Originally Posted by Dudd

Karak's point about the death penalty providing an incentive for those in governance positions but not directly involved in the cover up to keep an even tighter leash on things is a good one that I hadn't considered, but as far as a deterrent factor against future direct conspirators, just no.

fwiw, this is the entire point of university wide punishment for any violation. otherwise, they'd just punish the individual actors.

they want the tippiest toppiest guys to put safeguards in place to catch violations and deal with them. they also want them to hire coaches dedicated to following the rules and ethical practices.

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07-18-2012 , 10:49 PM

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InBetweenerZ

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Students holding vigil's to protect statue is LOL

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07-18-2012 , 10:53 PM

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vhawk01

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Originally Posted by InBetweenerZ

Students holding vigil's to protect statue is LOL

Yeah, see, this is the best possible argument in favor of death penalty.

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07-18-2012 , 11:01 PM

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Tumaterminator

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calenders repressed
rapes, rangs, societal dreams
when the statue falls

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07-18-2012 , 11:03 PM

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Karak

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...tue/56324604/1

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With threats coming in from all over the county, Elliott, 22, of Lancaster, Pa., said he knew they had to try to deter people who might try to vandalize the statue.

NOOOOOOOOO DON'T BRING ME INTO RANGE OF THE ORBIT NUKE, MR. ELLIOTT

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If university administrators or members of the Penn State Board of Trustees decide to remove the statue from its place at Beaver Stadium, Kevin Berkon, a senior majoring in crime, law and justice, said the students will not stand in their way.

But in the meantime, you can protect rapestatue.gif from the mean outsiders.

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"I believe firmly in Joe Paterno and everything he stood for," Berkon said. "I find it terrible people are trying to tear him down. He should be innocent until proven guilty."

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TRIAL BRO

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After hearing the student group Paternoville dropped the Paterno from its name, as well as seeing the halo removed from Paterno's head on a mural in State College, Berkon said he was "extremely disappointed." He said he believes people are rushing to conclusions.
Elliott agreed and said until the separate investigation conducted by the Paterno family is complete, people should not erase Paterno from campus.

LOL

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07-18-2012 , 11:07 PM

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loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by RacersEdge

Im saying they found some information that seems to support one theory re:JP

But you said they assumed their conclusion, which is not the same thing as what you're saying here.

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07-18-2012 , 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Karak

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...tue/56324604/1

I just can't stop loling at these people

i mean seriously

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07-18-2012 , 11:43 PM

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For the DP, I believe LOIC needs to be found in general, which the DP is given to provide time and initiative to restore control. DP imo really isn't intended to be punitive or a deterrent, rather as a way to establish restored faith in a program.

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07-18-2012 , 11:47 PM

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Need I remind you that the NCAA has no jurisdiction over the individual actors?

this is just the opposite of the DOJ deciding that they were going to clean up major league baseball.

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07-18-2012 , 11:51 PM

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barrymanilow

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Originally Posted by Karak

in psu alumni's defense, they probably wasn't aware there were victims or whatever you want to call them until the freeh report came out

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07-18-2012 , 11:58 PM

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nath

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After hearing the student group Paternoville dropped the Paterno from its name

Wait, what the hell are they called now? "Ville"?

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07-19-2012 , 12:07 AM

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Nitneyville, was linked ITT yesterday

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07-19-2012 , 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by smk67

For the DP, I believe LOIC needs to be found in general, which the DP is given to provide time and initiative to restore control. DP imo really isn't intended to be punitive or a deterrent, rather as a way to establish restored faith in a program.

Don't bogart that joint, dood.

Edit: Also, am I the only one who habitually sees LOIC as Low Orbit Ion Cannon?

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07-19-2012 , 12:59 AM

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Karak

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havent posted a cultist status today, but ill put another positive one:

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As a PSU fan myself I agree that there should be a death penalty. Although it would be difficult to bear witness to a season going by without the blue and white playing, what transpired and the events and people who led to that forthcoming deserve a harsh penalty.

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07-19-2012 , 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RacersEdge

The reports logic is "theres a puddle on the floor, an ice cube must have melted"- but there are other ways a puddle can be created.

The ice machine was in JoePa's office, the puddle was right outside the door. Someone heard the rhythmic sounds of an ice cube being dropped near the area where the puddle is now. The issue is nobody can say for sure how long it took him to pick it back up off the ground. Instead of asking for the carpet to be inspected, it seems that someone tried to use a paper towel to wipe up the water. If you know anything about using a paper towel on a carpet, it leaves tiny pieces behind. At the very minimum part of the puddle is made from that ice cube.

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07-19-2012 , 01:16 AM

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eobmtns

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Originally Posted by Holliday

Also, am I the only one who habitually sees LOIC as Low Orbit Ion Cannon?

I was thinking of that, too. We could get a bunch of script kiddies to bombard PSU with malformed packets....

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07-19-2012 , 01:29 AM

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A-Rod's Cousin

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Jerry Sandusky started a charity for kids, then had sex with them.

Joe Paterno opted to protect his legacy rather than the otherwise pristine anuses.

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07-19-2012 , 01:48 AM

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nath

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

Nitneyville, was linked ITT yesterday

are they bad at spelling Nittany, or is Nitney something/someone else?

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07-19-2012 , 02:10 AM

#13024

ForumWithdrawal

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Originally Posted by nath

are they bad at spelling Nittany, or is Nitney something/someone else?

It's nittany, RT just misspelled it.

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07-19-2012 , 02:50 AM

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Ray Horton

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Dudd/Dids:

You want to preserve Happy Valley? No, let the Bdidds and RacersEdges of this world waste their wretched lives in that testicle-shrivelling torture chamber.

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