I actually think that is extremely plausible, to the point it is even the likely scenario. Once the cover up started, it had to keep getting bigger and bigger to keep a lid on it.

On phone but here is PBS link

http://video.pbs.org/video/2257100910

i always get a kick out of pbs' begging for money.

..and Screamin' A. Smith (along with Bayless tarding it up) weighing in as mentioned by Karak earlier:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8170187

Well this sounds more plausible then the secret gay tryst theory. the problem could be that by the time Paterno clued in that the rumors had to be true, it would look like Paterno knew about it the entire time. Especially with lawyers liberal use of "known or should have known."

I wouldn't be surprised if there is more when Sandusky finally talks. Sandusky probably knows things about the football program that Joe wouldn't want getting out. Sandusky was there a long time and I don't think any Div1 football program can actually function it obeys every NCAA rule.

Also will be interesting to learn what Sandusky told him. I imagine some version of 'No, big misundertanding, I don't know what came over me, just a little slip up.'

Yeah about that. Does the "nuke from orbit" crowd really want you as their spokesperson? I doubt it. Much better options.

It's the next damn sentence. Motives only change the yeild...

I know the thread moved on, but bc eurotrash's poster was funny, and bc Former DJ/Lawhon has made a bunch of thoughtful posts itt displaying an impressive range of alphabet, I just wanted to say directly to ACL that yes, you just got steamrolled by a bong-wielding mob who probably overreacted a little bit, but at the same time, that blood has been in the water for the last 9000 posts and the only surprise was how long it took.

It's nothing personal, it's just a posting style thing. Imo one lesson that most smart people eventually learn about posting on a forum like 2p2 is that the forum's hivemind is also smart, sometimes super duper smart, and a good example of that would be this thread, which has stayed ahead of this entire story for six months now, partly thanks to you.

Your posts have tons going for them, but they can be tiring bc the feeling is that you're being very very patient with everyone. It's the same tone a parent might take if kids were raised by posts. Given your demographic and especially your biography it makes sense that this is sometimes where you're coming from, but you can also see why it doesn't totally fly in here, the hivemind is too smart. Also your restaurant story was phenomenally weird.

I guess this post is lame bc maybe I'm doing the same thing to you, but honestly I'm just saying it because I hope you don't selfban from the thread just because it didn't go your way for two pages. Instead just drop the den mother thing, don't quote this post, and then also embrace gay pride, in fact give gay pride a reacharound--cupping, clasping, changing speeds, whatever it takes--and then we'll all be back to piling onto Happy Valley in no time. Cheer up man, soon the ncaa might give PSU the death penalty in which case there will be 5000 Bored5000 posts to quote, hey it's gonna be great.

Ben Jones‏@Ben_Jones88
Banner plane: "Take down the statue or we will" just flew over State College. Unreal.

eta: here's a ****ty pic of it (not sure how to embed it)..

https://twitter.com/dmech06/status/2...648448/photo/1

Oh no doubt. Karak didn't pay 7 million dollars for law school not to lead the fight on this one, but the cool thing here is that it doesn't really matter. Our side is so easy to articulate and back up because the PSU admins kept such detailed records of their horrible actions.

First instinct is that they're full of ****, but renting the plane does speak to a certain level of dedication.

GF's thought is that they essentially want someone else to take down the statue via vandalism. The BoT doesn't want to do it and anger the subset of people that would be angered (i.e. donors), they don't want to be rushed into action, but they know it should and eventually will come down. So make statements that get statue haters mad, and then express outrage/disappointment when they do what you want to them do. Pretty win-win strategy.

I love how the JoePa truthers are convinced that ESPN has an axe to grind and are just out to get Joe.

I've thought for a while this seemed like a really likely explanation.

what's his biography besides being a former dj?

to me, it's the most monstrous of all explanations, but yeah.

The Orbit Nuke Association of America (ONAA) bylaws require an aerial warning period first.

You manage to cut the statue down and load it on a truck with nobody looking. Where do you take it first so you can make a Facebook or Twitter page that you update with adventures. Hypothetically.

'i thought you said it would be cool if someone cut off joe paterno's head?'
'that was just cloud talk, man'

You've embiggened this thread with your cromulent post.

Can't wait for Paterno's statue to go the way of that of Jebediah Springfield.

Most obvious explanation is this, which I think I outlined before the Freeh report.

Initial allegations come out in 1998. Police investigate, everyone at PSU finds out. PSU has no need to take any action other than making sure Sandusky is gone, and cooperate with the investigation. They have good reason to believe he is a pedo, but no way to prove it, and without proof, they decide it's best to handle it quietly by having him "retire".

So far, nothing that horrible by PSU. But Jerry keeps coming to campus and basically is emboldened by nothing coming from the initial investigation. Without anything solid, they pretty much let him have free reign on campus (a bigger mistake).

But then the McQueary incident happens. If this gets out, PSU is gonna look bad for their actions in 1998 (but not *that* bad), but definitely bad for keeping Jerry around. This is when the more major cover-up happens. They decide to keep it quiet, and probably think they can convince Jerry to knock it off, or at least not drag PSU into this by keeping him off campus. They are in full CYA mode, and this is clearly where the worst of their wrongdoing happens. So they keep it quiet.

So go back to 1998. They have allegations of him doing wrongdoing. People close to Sandusky for years are going to be inclined to believe that he is just the victim of a false accusation. But there's enough doubt raised with the right people that he is gone. But do you ban him from campus from an accusation where nothing happens from it? It's a tough situation and the police really boned it up here not being able to get him then.

But 2003 has absolutely no excuse for their behavior.

You forgot about the part where they asked to have an emergency re-hire of Sandusky after they tried to show him the door in '98 because like the football season was coming up and it would harm the team if he was to leave at that point.

Or the part where apparently no one told Second Mile "hey guys, you might want to keep an eye on Sandusky around boys". Or if they did then Second Mile needs to burn.