Wow that article that Joe supposedly wrote is just awful for the PSU image. It seems like he's saying this had absolutely nothing to do with any of us, we were just very unfortunate that it randomly happened on our campus.

michael jackson will be creeping the youngest person in the audience while paterno turns his back and puts his fingers in his ears

excellent

"I didn't know anything about Sandusky
It's a town in Ohio, Tommy Boy is pretty funny
That's the movie that I saw it in"

also excellent

I don't understand why not. iirc SMU got the dealth penalty for paying players and obv lying about it. How is covering for a rapist worthy of a lesser punishment? Does it boil down to the amount of people involved? I admit I could be missing something but from where I'm sitting they should get it worse than anyone has ever gotten it. **** PSU. Make an example out of them Goodell style.

I've harped on this before and got dismissed out of hand by folks like Richard Tanner, but I have a feeling the NCAA is going to come down really hard on Penn State due to "problems" in their own house.

Last fall, maybe a month or two prior to Sandusky's arrest, the Atlantic magazine featured a long form article, (i.e. "The Shame of College Sports"), by writer Taylor Branch. In his article Mr. Branch detailed the long and tortured history of the NCAA and their systematic exploitation of "student athletes" for profit - their profit. Many of these former athletes are fighting back and their lawsuits against the NCAA are headed to court. At some point in the not-too-distant future, the NCAA is going to be in the position of having to defend their actions and their policies in front of a jury going back many years. Many of those actions and policies are questionable - to say the least. (Mr. Branch examined the legal issues in the player lawsuits versus the NCAA in great detail in his article.)

The NCAA really can't put themselves in a position where they are perceived as "going easy" on Penn State at the same time that they have been systematically screwing athletes out of fair compensation. That kind of "double standard" - where coaches and institutions get away with felony crimes and punishment consisting of a slap on the wrist - while athletes lose their scholarships on a coach's whim - that will not look good to a jury.

The NCAA is going to "make an example" out of Penn State partly to ward off the perception that they are nothing more than a paper tiger willing to let coaches and programs get away with anything. Due to their own [legal] problems, they can't afford to foster that perception.

their rep is softened further by a number of things they are are/are not directly responsible for too (bcs/contracts/argument for paying players/layne kiffen)

The Death Penalty talk keeps coming up over and over and over again ITT. The answer never changes. The NCAA was pretty overt in stating after the SMU punishment that they would not use that penalty again. SMU also got the death penalty because they were already on probation and told to knock off the cheating, but continued to do so. SMU continued to flout NCAA directives after being told to right its ship.

This isn't a defense, but just an explanation of NCAA "justice." Penn St. has never been on probation, which was a huge reason SMU got shut down.

you act as if both crimes are even remotely comparable

Packing up the camp site soon and should be home a few hours after the report is released. Hoping for some craziness

Would any of you be willing to bet on the NCAA issuing the death penalty here?

I expect not, so stfu about it being anything more than a faint glimmer in your overly optimistic wish-fulfillment mind.

And, yes, obviously I believe paying players and covering up child rape are exactly comparable crimes and I'm a bad person. That's exactly what I'm saying.

LDO

Penn State will not get the death penalty. And that's the proper decision imo.

I have never understood the whole if you won't bet large sums of money on a view point then you're not allowed to discuss it

8 minutes till train wreck.

The NCAA is reluctant to hand PSU the death penalty.

Cynics would say it's because the financial impact will be huge.

The less cynical would say it's because NCAA is reluctant to get involved in ongoing criminal and civil suits.

Either way, NCAA will give PSU a sound slap on the wrist but probably not much else.

no obv
okay
wat

your post scores a 0/100

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It's called "money talks and bull**** walks".

I got no problem with someone wanting to discuss anything, but if you won't bet on it straight up, then obviously you think it's unlikely to happen. The emotional reaction of "child rape is bad" is irrelevant to that reality.

I didn't say "stfu" alone, and I didn't say it had to be a large sum of money. I'll take any amount you want to give me.

Lol jopa

Lol psu

Evidently you have a gambling problem, holy cow.

I'm not one of the death penalty guys.

I just think people like you are pathetic

No surprises so far. Schultz, Curley, Spanier, and Paterno confirmed to have known of allegations in May 1998.

BUT HE TOLD HIS SUPERIORS

Is it possible that 1998-2001 was really one really really long weekend that JoePa didn't want to ruin by doing more?

Oh look, Joe Paterno was a lying scumbag who knew everything. Never would have guessed!