Title Change: PSU Covers up for a Pedophile: Tumaterminator on rape: "it's like w/e"

It was a total shock it stayed up as long as it did. If it hadn't come from the account of a respected doctor and alumnus, it would have been gone in 30 seconds. The culture around Penn State football is a cult, and they are not going to let that statement continue to gain steam. Obviously many college football programs approach cult-like status. As an Ohio State fan, we certainly do, but the insular nature of a small town combined with the actions of a heinous criminal has taken Penn State to levels never seen.

A few other longtime loyalists have made statements totally out of character there since that post. So some information has circulated amongst the insiders, or someone has hacked the accounts. If hacked, they don't know, because an immediate post would be made saying that and to disregard the information if they were indeed hacked. Their fan base is incredibly skittish right now given who the statements came from, and trust me, they would love to come out and say there has been a hacking if true. If not, they are simply going to bury dissenting voices, even if they are long time loyalists and hope the situation doesn't come out.

The vast majority could deal with any of the remaining triumvirate being implicated, but Joe Pa is the sacred cow that must not be spoken about. To touch that is to upset their entire worldview.

Really, even though most logical people would assume Joe knew why his top assistant was being pushed out after 30 years, I don't know if it will come out as long as cases are being tried in central PA. I can't see an incentive for any prosecutor to weave Joe into the narrative if we are talking jury trials. I can't even see why any civil litigation attorney would include Joe in the narrative, as the mere mention, would be a death knell to his client. Only if we start getting into Clery Act-type issues handled on a broader scope do we find out that type of information in a court setting. Journalists are the best bet to actually get to the bottom of the story. I'm not an attorney, so the last part is just speculation on my part, but anyone that has to work in that area, or run for election, is going to be very hard pressed to poke that hornet's nest imo.

I disagree completely that the information may not come out if true. Sara Ganim has made her career as a 24-year-old. There are national reporters all over this story looking to definitively and inarguably tie Paterno to the cover-up.

No one really cares detail-wise if the three administrators orchestrated a cover-up. Paterno being involved is the "money shot" of the story. No one is going to sit on that detail when being the first with confirmation of that fact will make a reporter's career.

Title Change: PSU Covers up for a Pedophile: Richard Tanner: "Less Michigan, more child rape!"

But what about that missing DA????

My post was long winded, so I can't blame you for missing the part where I said that I didn't think it would come out in a court setting. Which is why I said journalists are the best bet, so we are in agreement that Paterno is indeed the money shot, and a reporter is likely to break it.

Disclosure of written error: suzzer was not telling me about the time he had a train run on him. I don't even know if there was a time that happened. What was written in post 10,751 was an error.

Title Change: "PSU's Sandusky's dick pokes, 2+2's Tanner, Dick jokes"

What about him? IIRC, hadn't he already decided not to charge Sandusky by the time of his disappearance? I know it has been mentioned before in this thread that he was also working on the biggest heroin trafficking ring in the history of Centre County at the time of his disappearance.

So if your Sara Ganim, what's next? Do you grind this story out for years and follow it all the way through or do you move on to a bigger paper/news station?

I assume there's a book deal if she ever wants it.

napoleoninrags2:

Thanks for clearing up some of the confusion. Being from Alabama with vivid memories of the 1979 Sugar Bowl and the iconic "Goal Line Stand" drama, nobody can accuse me of being a Penn State apologist or a member of the Penn State cult. However, I also dislike unsubstantiated gossip and rumor - especially when it concerns a situation as serious as this. With that thought in mind, I'll go ahead and post some of the notes I came up with last night as I reviewed what this "irondoc" individual posted. To wit:

Schadenfred (or, more accurately, "irondoc"):

OK, I've read the posts (actually half of the posts) on the link you provided. A couple of comments and observations.

First, if your "friend" is who you say he is and he was telling you all this juicy "inside information," he would have sworn you to secrecy, (i.e. made you promise not to blab any of this dynamite), since a "leak" of this magnitude, if this stuff is actually true, probably gets him taken off the investigation - at a minimum. Not saying you're lying or making this stuff up - just saying that this guy is not too bright if he told you all this stuff without extracting a promise that you would not repeat any of it. (Why is your "friend" so eager to destroy his career?)

Second, how can Corbett come out of this "smelling like roses" and being "right" when he took over $200,000.00 in "Keep Quiet" money, (excuse me "campaign donations"), from the Second Mile? How many years did Corbett sit on the investigation (with nothing happening) while he was Pennsylvania's Attorney General? Why is Corbett accepting money from the charity of a man he knew was probably a serial pedophile?

I might have come up with a few more questions about "irondoc's" post if I had finished reading all the replies in that thread, but these two were enough to make me wonder about the whole thing. Also, the fact that this thing was reposted here on 2+2 by somebody using the moniker "Schadenfred" was just a bit strange since Schadenfred is a very close approximation to the loan word "Schadenfreude" which denotes an individual who derives pleasure from someone else's misfortune.

Taking all of this into account, it seemed to me that the entire post might be some cretin's idea of a very sick joke.

If by some cretin, you mean a hacker, there is certainly a possibility that is true.

The owner of that account makes that joke 0.0 % of the time. He's been a member there for 7 years, and a physician and alumnus known to other members.

I also doubt Schaudenfred is an expert hacker lying in wait for two years here. I think the more logical reason he would have posted is that from a cursory glance at his posts, he's local to Philly, and probably heard, or stumbled across it. It was spread across multiple forums, and I came here to see if anyone had posted it.

LOL at you giving the definition of schadenfreude, like 99% here wouldn't know what it meant. That was your big tell? That a guy set up an account in 2010, before this was publicly known, to take enjoyment in Penn State's demise?

Solid theory.

Follow through. It's the perfect opportunity to create a magnum opus to set her up for life, in terms of awards, career and money.

But then again, why couldn't she grind it out at a bigger paper/news station?

she could go on a date with karak amirite

Wait, why are we dissecting that PSU message board post assuming it's a fake again? Doesn't the scenario the guy is describing basically match up with the likeliest outcome here?

except that whole post has been far and away the prevailing (and logical) theory in this thread dating back to last November. Nothing about it was shocking at all, other than the source (a known high profile alum).

Is there a way, when you put someone on our ignore list, for you to not even see when other people respond to his posts?

No, RIP ffvb

Richard:

Some of what irondoc posted couid turn out to be true. Just this morning I saw a lawyer for one of the victims who testified in Sandusky's trial (Kline?) stating, in response to a question about what's next in the case, that there are "ten to twenty" [additional] victims. That would tend to reinforce irondoc's statement.

What didn't match up (to me) were the references implying Tom Corbett would come out of this "smelling like roses" and (supposedly) be vindicated by Linda Kelly. It remains to be seen whether that will prove to be the case. (My understanding is that Tom Corbett is not a very popular Governor up in Pennsylvania right now ...)

As for the assertions concerning Tom Bradley committing perjury during his testimony to the Grand Jury and whoever this "Gantner" or "Gartner" person is, I don't know who those people are - Penn State administrators I suppose?

Fran Ganter is the Associate AD at PSU

it appears they deleted that thread

Sorry, by all the question marks I hoped you'd realize I was joking - people tying the DA's disappearance to this case are batsh*t.