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06-22-2012 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
What the hell is taking so long...how do you not just snap convict on all counts

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Oh yeah, State College PA jury
nah it's a TON of counts to consider and they need to go through each one... there are multiple counts per victim. also some of the evidence on a few of the counts was legitimately shaky (although most of the counts are rock solid imo).

there's nothing wrong with how long they are taking. i was going to be really surprised if they had a verdict by tonight.
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06-22-2012 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Brittany Horn ‏@brittanyhorn
MT @cvmikesisak: #Sandusky attny Rominger walks into crtrm holding 2 pieces of candy: "I have two Swedish fish. I'm not sure what it means."
Wow. I'm starting to thinking rapin' jurry belonged to some sick organization of backwoods weirdos from which he picked his legal representation.
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06-22-2012 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Onward State ‏@OnwardState
The jury requested to review Mike McQueary and Dr. Dranov's testimony. Judge Cleland says that that will happen tomorrow morning. #Sandusky
This is 2012. How come the jury isn't given a pdf with everyone's testimony? The prosecution and defense both read through transcripts, I assume. Why is it unfair to let the jury do it if they so choose?
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06-22-2012 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TomfooleryU
Wow. I'm starting to thinking rapin' jurry belonged to some sick organization of backwoods weirdos from which he picked his legal representation.
Rominger was well respected in the area before this trial. He has his own radio show. My mom listens to it sometimes. She keeps saying, "I'm so surprised and disappointed at Rominger and what he's said and done with this case."
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06-22-2012 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
This is 2012. How come the jury isn't given a pdf with everyone's testimony? The prosecution and defense both read through transcripts, I assume. Why is it unfair to let the jury do it if they so choose?
Sometimes there's more to testimony than just the words that were said.
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06-22-2012 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
This is 2012. How come the jury isn't given a pdf with everyone's testimony? The prosecution and defense both read through transcripts, I assume. Why is it unfair to let the jury do it if they so choose?
they get it if they ask. they aren't given everything right off the bat. too much stuff.
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06-22-2012 , 08:58 PM
The most embarassing thing has to be knowing that everyone in the world knows your c0ck is small enough to fit inside a young boy's exhaust pipe.

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lol sandusky
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06-22-2012 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Rominger was well respected in the area before this trial. He has his own radio show. My mom listens to it sometimes. She keeps saying, "I'm so surprised and disappointed at Rominger and what he's said and done with this case."
Sandusky was pretty well-respected before all of this too though..members of an underground NAMBLA chapter?
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06-22-2012 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
This is 2012. How come the jury isn't given a pdf with everyone's testimony? The prosecution and defense both read through transcripts, I assume. Why is it unfair to let the jury do it if they so choose?
Aside from any legal factors that might disallow it, it's because the type of court reporters used in trials like this work for the court and don't have the ability/skill level to turn shorthand into readable words in a matter of hours. To get someone who could have a finalized transcript within hours of the end of testimony they would need to hire a firm with top notch reporters, which for something like this could cost the lawyers an easy 5-10k/day. The state would never pay for that, and there's obviously no benefit to Amendolola paying it either.
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06-22-2012 , 09:08 PM
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After the trial started June 11, jurors had been allowed to return at the end of the day to their central Pennsylvania homes during the seven days of testimony.

Now, the seven-woman, five-man jury — and two remaining alternates — will stay in separate hotel rooms until a verdict is reached. The alternates are sequestered in a different hotel than the other jurors. When they are brought into the courthouse, they are shielded from public view.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=155585640
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06-22-2012 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Sometimes there's more to testimony than just the words that were said.
Why is testimony often read back to juries by a court reporter instead of the actual video of the testimony? Having to wait until next morning to hear somebody else re-enact the testimony sounds completely ridicilous to me. If I was on a jury and a judge told me I had to wait until tomorrow morning to hear some court reporter read something back to me, I'd tell him to stop wasting my time.
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06-22-2012 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by knivesout
Aside from any legal factors that might disallow it, it's because the type of court reporters used in trials like this work for the court and don't have the ability/skill level to turn shorthand into readable words in a matter of hours. To get someone who could have a finalized transcript within hours of the end of testimony they would need to hire a firm with top notch reporters, which for something like this could cost the lawyers an easy 5-10k/day. The state would never pay for that, and there's obviously no benefit to Amendolola paying it either.
Didn't see this. Thanks.
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06-22-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
Why is testimony often read back to juries by a court reporter instead of the actual video of the testimony? Having to wait until next morning to hear somebody else re-enact the testimony sounds completely ridicilous to me. If I was on a jury and a judge told me I had to wait until tomorrow morning to hear some court reporter read something back to me, I'd tell him to stop wasting my time.
The juries aren't always permitted to rehear testimony. It's important the judge go about it carefully. Someone above also laid out another good reason why re: court reporters (altho they do turn those transcripts around pretty quickly on the hill, but it still does take hours).

****ing up something during the deliberation process is a way to get a trial overturned on appeal. That's a judge's worst nightmare. He's going to treat the entire process like it's nitro glycerin.

btw AmendoLOLa also said he'd "have a heart attack" if Sandusky is acquitted of all charges, adding it's "one in a million."

If the jury weren't sequestered, that would absolutely disrupt everything.

I trust this judge, though. I think he's done a really good job so far. This case is moving at lightning speed (in a good way) thanks to his efforts and rulings.
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06-22-2012 , 09:16 PM
Michael Sisak ‏@cvmikesisak
‪#Sandusky‬ walks into courtroom and... into a sideroom. ‪#sandusky‬

edit - the guy who just tweeted that just tweeted a frantic correction that he meant amendoLOLa
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06-22-2012 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Michael Sisak ‏@cvmikesisak
‪#Sandusky‬ walks into courtroom and... into a sideroom. ‪#sandusky‬

edit - the guy who just tweeted that just tweeted a frantic correction that he meant amendoLOLa
After a while all pedos look the same
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06-22-2012 , 09:27 PM
i feel like a ****ing old lady following this **** so closely on twitter, but power is out in the city and im bored so allow me to continue:

Mark Dent ‏@mdent05
Jerry #Sandusky is leaving his house now http://pic.twitter.com/09xMq60s
Retweeted by Brittany Horn

Brittany Horn ‏@brittanyhorn
RT @OrenCBS3: AG Linda Kelly just entered the courtroom and sat. @CBSPhilly

Mark Dent ‏@mdent05
Jerry #Sandusky got into the chevy of a centre co officer. Being escorted by lead car of Tom smith, centre co pres of parole and probation
Retweeted by Brittany Horn
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06-22-2012 , 09:30 PM
my dad just texted me to say the local news in lancaster is reporting they think (they are speculating based on activity by the courthouse) a verdict is coming tonight
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06-22-2012 , 09:31 PM
Would he have to go back just to have them close deliberations for the night?

nvm twitterverse exploding. looks like verdict is incoming
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06-22-2012 , 09:32 PM
How late could a verdict be read? Could it happen at like midnight? Is there a point where they have to wait until Monday?
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06-22-2012 , 09:33 PM
verdict is in
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06-22-2012 , 09:34 PM
Well the judge wanted to have a closed courtroom for the verdict right?

maybe the verdict is in but he wants to keep the press out of the scent and told everyone to say there isn't one so they can get Sandusky to the courthouse first


tinfoil hat I know

Last edited by UFO1947; 06-22-2012 at 09:34 PM. Reason: slow pony
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06-22-2012 , 09:35 PM
**** is about to get real!!!!!!!11
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06-22-2012 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
How late could a verdict be read? Could it happen at like midnight? Is there a point where they have to wait until Monday?
GF told me a story of a judge she clerked for making jurors deliberate until 1 in the morning because he was pissed off with the case and didn't want it in his courtroom another day.
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06-22-2012 , 09:37 PM
foxnews has a live feed to the courtroom
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06-22-2012 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
foxnews has a live feed to the courtroom
link?
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