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06-14-2012 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishmonger
What the hell is the defence case going to be?
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06-14-2012 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
He said that while an irate mother was questioning him about raping her child. I'm sure he didn't want her to call the police, so he was trying to do anything to prevent that.

If she called the police, of course, the entire gig was up and he would go to jail for a long time.

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Oh, right, the police were hiding in her home listening to the conversation firsthand.
OMFG every time i re-read a previously outrageous bit of the story, i get more and more mad
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06-14-2012 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Well, she looks like a winner.
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06-14-2012 , 03:30 PM
Ryan Beckler ‏@RBecklerPSU
Be forewarned: Victim 9s GJ account is possibly the most graphic of them all. Also claims he called to Dottie upstairs for help, no response

Kevin Horne ‏@KevinHornePSU
Expecting to hear from Victim 9 next. The prosecution certainly has a strategy for saving #9 for last, I'm afraid...
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06-14-2012 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
Empire Man:

If the general public comes to believe that Penn State is getting off light, there's always the possibility of organizing consumer boycotts against any Fortune 500 corporations that advertise their products during Penn State football games - if the NCAA fails to inflict the death penalty.
I know we have discussed this point on here before, but I just don't get the opinion that the NCAA is suddenly some virtuous and upstanding organization that is going to blow up a program ranked in the top 10 all-time in wins. I didn't think there was any shot of that happening when the story broke seven months ago, and I still can't see the NCAA ever doing that.
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06-14-2012 , 03:47 PM
It's hard for me to fathom how horrifying the last 1 or 2 victim's stories are going to be. You know the prosecution's saving the worst for last.
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06-14-2012 , 04:10 PM
A few things I've pulled together from some news clips the last few days. There's no big piece on it, but some thoughts/questions:

-PSU was under a long-standing subpoena to turn over a lot of the files kept by PSU officials or in some PSU office (edit - not sure who they were). They did so slowly. If I'm reading these tweets correctly, it seems the investigator testifying today was frustrated by PSU dragging its feet.
-The documents themselves: what's in them? Are they detailed accounts of allegations against Sandusky? Are they all the puzzle pieces put together into a picture of molestation the PSU admins should have (or clearly did) see? Some of the tweets below talk about it.
-What does this mean for the civil liability of PSU?
-What does this mean for the NCAA's investigation and eventual action (or inaction)?

Some of the sources/tweets I found online relating to this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/...d-news-for-psu

Megan Healey ‏@MeganHealey
Evidence obtained from search warrants of #Sandusky home, old football office. Sassano said #PSU was slow to help them track down emails.

Christina Butler ‏@ChristinaCBS21
Agent Sassano: ... Penn State was not quick in getting us (subpoened) info

Christina Butler ‏@ChristinaCBS21
Eventually PSU let agents searchy a room with Sandusky's abandoned office stuff including 18 or 20 boxes

Christina Butler ‏@ChristinaCBS21
Boxes include pictures of alleged victim 4 and a 2nd Mile database on accuser 6. Also more lists with stars next to names of alleged victims

Ben Jones ‏@Ben_Jones88
No. NCAA hesitant to start dealing with moral issues outside of the game RT @J_Gross31: Think psu will get hit with the death penalty?

Ben Jones ‏@Ben_Jones88
The thing with the NCAA is that the crimes committed took place within a football program, but are not related to the product on the field

Ben Jones ‏@Ben_Jones88
Per Nov release, the NCAA is investigating Penn State under: Article 2.1, Article 2.4, Bylaw 10.1 and Bylaw 19.01.2

Ben Jones ‏@Ben_Jones88
The larger question becomes where is the "immoral line" between a coaches action that involves sanctions and immoral one that doesn't.

Kevin Cirilli ‏@kevcirilli
What will #Sandusky investigator's testimony regarding PSU's slow response mean for Curley, Schultz (and likely Spanier)? In civil cases?
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06-14-2012 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
It's hard for me to fathom how horrifying the last 1 or 2 victim's stories are going to be. You know the prosecution's saving the worst for last.
Mark Dent ‏@mdent05
Victim9, final victim, has been testifying. Said #Sandusky forced him into sex acts many times in his basement from around 05 to 09

Courtney Brennan ‏@WPXI_Courtney
The most graphic & upsetting testimony abt alleged sex abuse from #Sandusky came from Victim 9. His story almost made me physically sick.

SportsByBrooks put together a convenient Twitter list that I'm using to follow all this stuff: https://twitter.com/#!/SPORTSbyBROOKS/sandusky-trial

edit - more

Mark Dent ‏@mdent05
Victim9 was afraid to go to the cops: "he's an important guy,a football coach. Who would believe kids?"

Mark Dent ‏@mdent05
Prosecution asked victim9 to point at the man who abused him. He pointed at #Sandusky but looked away. "I don't want to look at him."
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06-14-2012 , 04:24 PM
the NCAA isn't going to do jack ****, we've been over this. they've been sniffing around the case hoping to uncover some ncaa rules violations because it would be good publicity for them to hammer penn state over some unrelated stuff, but they apparently haven't found anything; if they had, we'd know about it.

which is hilarious because it allows joe pa defenders to say "but but but he didn't break ncaa rules" as though that's actually something to be proud of.

just like how players don't get in trouble with the ncaa for DUIs or selling drugs or whatever, penn state won't get in trouble because their coaching staff covered up child rape.

i guess in theory other schools could refuse to schedule them in football, but i don't think the Big Ten would have any authority to kick them out, and they'd have no reason to financially. i mean penn state football is still selling tickets, opposing fans aren't boycotting watching them on tv, hell their 2013 football recruiting class is currently ranked 3rd best in the Big Ten.
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06-14-2012 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bored5000
I know we have discussed this point on here before, but I just don't get the opinion that the NCAA is suddenly some virtuous and upstanding organization that is going to blow up a program ranked in the top 10 all-time in wins. I didn't think there was any shot of that happening when the story broke seven months ago, and I still can't see the NCAA ever doing that.
Clearly, there was never a loss of institutional control. They knew what was going on the entire time.

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If anyone is defending the institution at this point (not that Bored is)... then I'm sorry for the trauma that you suffered as a child. That's the only explanation that makes even a little sense regarding your willingness to empathize with PSU. They all need to go to jail. Any alum or student who says otherwise just further illustrates why.
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06-14-2012 , 04:30 PM
Ryan Beckler ‏@RBecklerPSU
Victim 9 was present with #Sandusky and a friend at the 2011 Penn State/Illinois game, Joe Paterno’s last game as head coach.
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06-14-2012 , 04:30 PM
If anything is for sure its that the NCAA will do nothing.
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06-14-2012 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Ryan Beckler ‏@RBecklerPSU
Victim 9 was present with #Sandusky and a friend at the 2011 Penn State/Illinois game, Joe Paterno’s last game as head coach.
wtf?
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06-14-2012 , 04:35 PM
Kevin Cirilli ‏@kevcirilli
#Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said when I asked if Jerry would testify, "Did I give an opening statement? I'm Catholic. I don't lie."

"I'm Catholic" maybe not the best answer there, Lawyerin' Joe.
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06-14-2012 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
"I'm Catholic" maybe not the best answer there, Lawyerin' Joe.
Maybe he was just explaining why he's defending a pedophile
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06-14-2012 , 04:45 PM
Ugh, how is there not a PPV of Sandusky's testimony?
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06-14-2012 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Kevin Cirilli ‏@kevcirilli
#Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said when I asked if Jerry would testify, "Did I give an opening statement? I'm Catholic. I don't lie."

"I'm Catholic" maybe not the best answer there, Lawyerin' Joe.
mmm, irony.
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06-14-2012 , 04:52 PM
http://twitpic.com/9wg6pm


Sandusky leaving the courthouse today.
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06-14-2012 , 04:52 PM
What in the blue **** does Sandusky think he is going to say in his defense?

Maybe he wants to air the dirty laundry and take as many down as he can with him?
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06-14-2012 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
http://twitpic.com/9wg6pm


Sandusky leaving the courthouse today.
The term 'mental illness' does not do it justice.
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06-14-2012 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
What in the blue **** does Sandusky think he is going to say in his defense?

Maybe he wants to air the dirty laundry and take as many down as he can with him?
I genuinely think he doesn't have much to lose.
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06-14-2012 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I genuinely think he doesn't have much to lose.
He might be already fantasizing about prison life.
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06-14-2012 , 04:57 PM
Victim 9's allegations were pretty bad.

http://www.abc27.com/story/18788267/...notes-day-four
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06-14-2012 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
What in the blue **** does Sandusky think he is going to say in his defense?

Maybe he wants to air the dirty laundry and take as many down as he can with him?
Or he thinks the fact that this runs so deep that "something" will happen to get him acquitted. No worries, corruption gonna corrupt.
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06-14-2012 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
What in the blue **** does Sandusky think he is going to say in his defense?
Part of me wants to see Sandusky pull a Budd Dwyer right there in the courtroom, but I am sure everyone is frisked/run through a a metal detector prior to entering the courthouse each day. The Budd Dwyer video scared the **** out of me as a kid, and is something I will probably never forget seeing.
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