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11-06-2011 , 04:25 PM
clearly the guy doesnt have great morals if he didnt report it, but that doesnt mean he should be held responsible for future crimes. I mean, if youre out drinking and see someone walk out of the bar drunk and get in a car should you go to jail if you didnt call the cops and they later got in a wreck?
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11-06-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
A murder is a ton different than rape. I don't think I have to explain this.
So where's the line?

Raping a 10 year old is different enough from a murder that the person reporting the rape is a snitch but the person reporting the murder is ok?
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11-06-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
A murder is a ton different than rape. I don't think I have to explain this.
You can't be real.
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11-06-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
A murder is a ton different than kiddie rape. I don't think I have to explain this.
No no, please explain.
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11-06-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
A murder is a ton different than rape. I don't think I have to explain this.
agree, but theyre both bad.
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11-06-2011 , 04:27 PM
he definitely wouldn't be with penn state anymore. and pretty unlikely to be picked up by anyone else (not for same reason, just bc it takes years to climb teh ladder)
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11-06-2011 , 04:27 PM
I'm certainly not convinced raping a child is different enough from murder to mean anything. Both crimes should be capital crimes and are basically as bad a thing as someone can do.
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11-06-2011 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
I think so. He did what he was supposed to do at first, reported it to his higher ups, and it's their responsibility. If they don't do anything and he does, it's seen as going behind their backs. No one wants to be known as the snitch whistleblower.
True. I'd rather be a person that became aware of a child predator who I knew had access to countless children and did nothing about it.

How the **** is reporting that you saw an old man anally raping a 10 year old whistle blowing?

Last edited by Aytumious; 11-06-2011 at 04:34 PM.
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11-06-2011 , 04:29 PM
Sorry if it was mentioned in this thread. Was skimming the Second Mile website. Surprised they haven't made a statement or at least pulled Sandusky's name yet http://www.thesecondmile.org/aboutUs/history.php

Since 1977, The Second Mile has followed the path of its founder, Jerry Sandusky, to help Pennsylvania's children achieve their potential as individuals and community members by providing them with opportunities to develop self-esteem.
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11-06-2011 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
he definitely wouldn't be with penn state anymore. and pretty unlikely to be picked up by anyone else (not for same reason, just bc it takes years to climb teh ladder)
I think you are 100% wrong.
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11-06-2011 , 04:35 PM
Snitches absolutely do not get stitches when it comes to child rapists. Do you have any idea how bad PSU would look getting rid of a former QB alum that brought a sexual predator to the attention of the authorities? Basically about as bad as they do right now.
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11-06-2011 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
I'm certainly not convinced raping a child is different enough from murder to mean anything. Both crimes should be capital crimes and are basically as bad a thing as someone can do.
With murder, there is usually more potent evidence. When you come across a crime like that and tell the police, they can gather actual facts. Now a few months after nothing happened to Sandusky, what can they go on? Words, testimony, stories. I guess the sample size of evidence becomes larger if you begin to interview all the kids he was known to have come in contact with.

McQueary at the time had just finished his shot at the NFL, failed, and came back to become a GA. He held that position until 2002. If he reports it after others have covered up, in both scenarios (nothing happens to Sandusky or everyone is guilty), I think he's fired. If PSU is found to have covered up, everyone is canned, and the new coach brings in an entire new staff to rid himself of the situation. What then does a 28 yr old GA with no coaching experience turn to in the career path he chose?
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11-06-2011 , 04:38 PM
ppl get ostracized for bringing this stuff to light. its human nature, less a political thing. it happens. they are the burden of proof of something unimaginable.

i also think the ginger took into account that it would have been his word vs the words of penn state LEGENDS and GODS. good chance he ends up ruined, in his eyes, i think.
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11-06-2011 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Aytumious
True. I'd rather be a person that became aware of a child predator who I knew had access to countless children and did nothing about it.

How the **** is reporting that you saw an old man anally raping a 10 year old whistle blowing?
He ****ing told the AD and Paterno. Blame them.
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11-06-2011 , 04:40 PM
I'm not saying going to the police would have been a great career decision (although I don't think it would necessarily be bad).

But it sure as hell is a right being a good human decision.

Also, I'm clearly saying he should have reported it immediately (therefore -- everyone is not fired).. not after covering it up.

He should have called 911 that very same night. The very minute.
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11-06-2011 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
With murder, there is usually more potent evidence. When you come across a crime like that and tell the police, they can gather actual facts. Now a few months after nothing happened to Sandusky, what can they go on? Words, testimony, stories. I guess the sample size of evidence becomes larger if you begin to interview all the kids he was known to have come in contact with.

McQueary at the time had just finished his shot at the NFL, failed, and came back to become a GA. He held that position until 2002. If he reports it after others have covered up, in both scenarios (nothing happens to Sandusky or everyone is guilty), I think he's fired. If PSU is found to have covered up, everyone is canned, and the new coach brings in an entire new staff to rid himself of the situation. What then does a 28 yr old GA with no coaching experience turn to in the career path he chose?
So much fail. How about getting a normal job like everyone else? And not be a scumbag.
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11-06-2011 , 04:41 PM
You're right, though.. he got promoted by covering it up.

Now he can live as the guy everyone knows that covered up a child being raped.

Hope it was a good trade for him.

edit: Basically, I don't care to argue if it would have been a bad career decision to go to the police.. but it is surely a bad life decision to not go to them.
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11-06-2011 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Isura
So much fail. How about getting a normal job like everyone else? And not be a scumbag.
Who do you think hires random GAs associated with a scandal?
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11-06-2011 , 04:44 PM
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Who do you think hires random GAs associated with a scandal?
So, how do his job prospects look from here?
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11-06-2011 , 04:45 PM
According to whats on the ESPN front page:

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"Joe Paterno was a witness who cooperated and testified before the grand jury," said Nils Frederiksen, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office. "He's not a suspect."

Frederiksen called questions about whether Paterno might testify premature and speculation.

"That's putting the cart way ahead of the horse," Frederiksen said. "We're certainly not going to be discussing the lineup of potential witnesses."
It will be interesting to see how he's a "witness" but won't be implicated in any wrong doing. I suspect it will have to do with seeing the guy with the boys on trips, etc. but I find it hard to believe a prosecutor wouldn't take that further.
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11-06-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Who do you think hires random GAs associated with a scandal?
Pretty sure a former PSU QB could've worked anywhere in Centre County.
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11-06-2011 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
He ****ing told the AD and Paterno. Blame them.
I blame all of them.
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11-06-2011 , 04:47 PM
My best guess is Paterno gets his wish. He names Jay as his successor (which is what he wanted to do by not outing the AD, thus getting him fired). Jay offers McQueary the OC job.
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11-06-2011 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
Pretty sure a former PSU QB could've worked anywhere in Centre County.
Probably. But on the ascension at your dream school > working for any HS program.
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11-06-2011 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy
@SPORTSbyBROOKS: Sandusky had children rooming w/ him at team hotels. Home, away, bowl trips. On PSU's dime. Even after '98 PSU investigation.
Oh dear God. Program needs the death penalty if true. This is just getting worse and worse.
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