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11-10-2011 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeyhero31
Anderson Cooper killin it right now on CNN
WTF are you talking about?

his guests are killing it...

Anderson has a blank stare and seems preoccupied.
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11-10-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bowens
You're punishing the wrong people.
I had the same sentiment. Other than the players themselves though, there aren't very many of the wrong people left.
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11-10-2011 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbomom
Ed Schultz on msnbc has a poll up on whether PSU should cancel their last 3 games and refuse a bowl bid. I actually think this is a good idea. I think it behooves other schools to not play Penn St. at this time for a few reasons: no schools should want to place it's students/ athletes in such an explosive atmosphere at this time. No school should want to provide Penn St. with any extraneous money at this time. No school should want to show support for Penn St. [athletics] at this time. No school should provide any modicum of support for Penn St. in any way AT THIS TIME. Next year, a different story, hopefully.
I don't see how canceling the football program supports the university's mission going forward. I don't see how it says anything about accountability. Yes, they do have some accountability issues that they are in the process of addressing.

If the idea is to mourn the victims by not rallying around the team, then their is still a legal process in place and in all likelihood the university will need to play a role in the mourning, restoration, etc.
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11-10-2011 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bowens
Joe Posnanski has taken a great deal of flak today around the interwebz. He tries to explain it here: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/1...nd-of-paterno/
His 4th point in there is what is amazing to me about some of the people commenting on this. The president of the university is forced out, a VP and the AD are up on criminal charges, and of course that scumbag Sandusky. But yes, firing the ****ing head coach of the football team that was also involved to an undetermined extent is heaping all of the blame on him and making him the scapegoat. Boo hoo, poor Joe Paterno.
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11-10-2011 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbomom
Ed Schultz on msnbc has a poll up on whether PSU should cancel their last 3 games and refuse a bowl bid. I actually think this is a good idea. I think it behooves other schools to not play Penn St. at this time for a few reasons: no schools should want to place it's students/ athletes in such an explosive atmosphere at this time. No school should want to provide Penn St. with any extraneous money at this time. No school should want to show support for Penn St. [athletics] at this time. No school should provide any modicum of support for Penn St. in any way AT THIS TIME. Next year, a different story, hopefully.
The main issue with this is that Penn State has a good team, the Big Ten is a close race, and to refuse to play them would look like you're ducking and holding up safety/morality etc. as an excuse.

Penn State should save them the trouble and forfeit their remaining games, imo. They really, really should not be playing football in State College this weekend after all this.

Next year, when there's been some time to heal, time for things to be fully evaluated, the house has been THOROUGHLY cleaned, then whatever. But as far as I'm concerned, this football season really should be over for Penn State.
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11-10-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bronx bomber
I would also like to see the NCAA get involved in this. Apparently "Loss of Institutional Control" is the worst offense a school can commit. If this doesn't qualify for that then what does?
lolwut

seems like TOO MUCH institutional control was the problem, not lack thereof.
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11-10-2011 , 09:29 PM
To be fair, Posnanski is probably pissed he just spent a year in PA for nothing and now is going to have to stay another year to figure all this out.
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11-10-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
The main issue with this is that Penn State has a good team, the Big Ten is a close race, and to refuse to play them would look like you're ducking and holding up safety/morality etc. as an excuse.

Penn State should save them the trouble and forfeit their remaining games, imo. They really, really should not be playing football in State College this weekend after all this.
In this case, I am pretty sure people would buy the excuse.
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11-10-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
To be fair, Posnanski is probably pissed he just spent a year in PA for nothing and now is going to have to stay another year to figure all this out.
I don't understand why he would be, though, at least from a professional/$$ angle. Like Corbett said, this is a book waiting to be written. Who is in a better position right now to do it than him?
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11-10-2011 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
Using this logic, when a girl is raped by a guy, the reporter on the news should be a girl. You know, because the guy reporting it would be getting off on it.
let me clarify.

Anderson is mediating the conversation between several guests that pop in and out of the broadcast.

As this progresses, Anderson has the wierd, uncomfortable pauses in his speech. His facial expressions have this look of bewilderment and being preoccupied, like he is thinking about something else.

So, yes. When he pauses, with this appearance that he is preoccupied with a thought outside of the topic of conversation, it gives me a creepy feeling about what else he might be thinking about.
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11-10-2011 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
I don't understand why he would be, though, at least from a professional/$$ angle. Like Corbett said, this is a book waiting to be written. Who is in a better position right now to do it than him?

That's true, but I still think he's frustrated about all this and being emotional while trying not be emotional.
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11-10-2011 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
The main issue with this is that Penn State has a good team, the Big Ten is a close race, and to refuse to play them would look like you're ducking and holding up safety/morality etc. as an excuse.

Penn State should save them the trouble and forfeit their remaining games, imo. They really, really should not be playing football in State College this weekend after all this.

Next year, when there's been some time to heal, time for things to be fully evaluated, the house has been THOROUGHLY cleaned, then whatever. But as far as I'm concerned, this football season really should be over for Penn State.
the main issue with this is that the players are being unfairly punished, especially the seniors.
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11-10-2011 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
The main issue with this is that Penn State has a good team, the Big Ten is a close race, and to refuse to play them would look like you're ducking and holding up safety/morality etc. as an excuse.

Penn State should save them the trouble and forfeit their remaining games, imo. They really, really should not be playing football in State College this weekend after all this.

Next year, when there's been some time to heal, time for things to be fully evaluated, the house has been THOROUGHLY cleaned, then whatever. But as far as I'm concerned, this football season really should be over for Penn State.
I mean, let's say Penn State pulls the upset on Nebraska Saturday.

Wouldn't that be...awkward? Are they gonna celebrate?
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11-10-2011 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by five4suited
the main issue with this is that the players are being unfairly punished, especially the seniors.
That's true, but we're dealing with bigger issues here. Life is unfair. Joe Posnanski is being unfairly punished because now he can't write his fluff book on Paterno he's been working on for so long. So what.

At the end of the day, it's just football. Amateur football, at that. No one's livelihood is even at stake here. The coaches are all gone next season anyway. The stakes of "omg the players are being punished" are really, really low.
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11-10-2011 , 09:38 PM
I'm guessing you didn't play college sports.
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11-10-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by five4suited
the main issue with this is that the players are being unfairly punished, especially the seniors.

You know what? **** happens. Sometimes life isn't fair.
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11-10-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
To be fair, Posnanski is probably pissed he just spent a year in PA for nothing and now is going to have to stay another year to figure all this out.
Yeah, maybe so. And maybe it shouldn't piss me off to hear some of this stuff but it does anyway.

Similar to some of the comments about what McQueary told him exactly. Oh no, he didn't say anything about rape, he just mentioned fondling, touching, and horseplay. You know, the fun kind of sexual assault that's perfectly reasonable to ignore and let this guy stick around your program with young boys.
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11-10-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
agreed. It reminds me of the JFK lovers excusing his running the country on heavy drug use while fornicating all over the place. Once you make a man a deity, rational discussion of him disappears.
Wait, what? Who made those excuses? You weren't even alive when that happened.

Not to derail, but I've never heard anything about his "heavy drug use", and I don't give a **** about "fornicating all over the place" (lol "fornicating", there's a word purposely chosen to be loaded with moral judgment if ever there was one).
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11-10-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
That's true, but we're dealing with bigger issues here. Life is unfair. Joe Posnanski is being unfairly punished because now he can't write his fluff book on Paterno he's been working on for so long. So what.

At the end of the day, it's just football. Amateur football, at that.
Agreed. "Punish" is a strong word. If some football players are inconvenienced by not playing a couple of football games so that the institution that covered up a decade plus of child rape can be adequately punished, so be it.
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11-10-2011 , 09:41 PM
see above. there's no justification for the players' getting royally (insert perjorative that means wronged). assuming that you'd agree they have absolutely no culpability here.
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11-10-2011 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Ehh I should just direct everyone to tarheels' posts on the subject
tarheels has been awesome all thread.

Last edited by kidcolin; 11-10-2011 at 09:43 PM. Reason: very well spoken and articulate
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11-10-2011 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
oh great, so his Paterno should really suck.

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Originally Posted by ajmargarine
...If "we", say 20 random people in this thread, were to have investigative authority over this matter and could go anywhere the evidence took us, "we" could probably take down over half the organized pedophilia crap in the world...
BUY. BUST.

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Originally Posted by bronx bomber
Someone said that CNN reported that the sister said Joe should have finished out the year. I'm scratching my head at that one.
more evidence of the insane cult of Paterno there.

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
this is the guy who walked into a shower room, saw a man anally raping a 10 year old, and just went home, right?
i don't know why so many people are going on about what GA should or shouldn't have done there. i mean the grand jury report doesn't say what happened either way, but i kinda doubt that when Sandusky saw GA he just winked and kept going at the kid. i would assume that he stopped, panicked, and tried to hide what was happening, in an attempt to pass it off as something else (like the ridiculous horseplay explanations wrt to some of the other charges). or course this could be wrong too, but it makes more sense to me.

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I wonder if all those people who held grudges against Paterno all these years, but couldn't say anything because of the Paterno juggernaut, will suddenly come out of the woodwork and sling more mud at him. Like what happened with Tiger.
haven't cared about Paterno one way or the other until very recently, but i'd be ok with this.

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Not sure Paterno is even top 3. Dismissing the guys who are actually indicted for perjury and criminal inaction deserve higher spots on the power rankings, at least unless we find out something more about Paterno's role.
this.

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Originally Posted by bronx bomber
I would also like to see the NCAA get involved in this. Apparently "Loss of Institutional Control" is the worst offense a school can commit. If this doesn't qualify for that then what does?
idk, giving food or clothes to a poor, black student-athlete?
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11-10-2011 , 09:42 PM
Not playing the game sounds like the worst idea possible.

Lets the players play and donate a lot of the proceeds to charity. gg.
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11-10-2011 , 09:43 PM
there's no "unfair punishment" to anyone at Penn St. in terms of monetary damages at this time imo. The whole atmosphere was apparently pervasive in deifying the football team/ athletic department. Think of it in analgous terms with the Catholic church. Every person who contributed to the church/ Penn St. contributed to an institution that sanctioned and protected monsters. They should both be burnt to the ground. How can a mere 3 or 4 games cancelled to protect the participants and spectators, not to mention rebuild the integrity of the institution be considered too much "unfair punishment"?
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11-10-2011 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tpt99
Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum thought enough of Jerry Sandusky nine years ago to sponsor the former Penn State defense coordinator for a "Congressional Angels in Adoption" award, citing his work with a non-profit group he founded to provide care for foster children.

"Its philosophy is simple: it is easier to develop a child than to rehabilitate an adult," read the citation in the awards dinner program from Sept. 24, 2002.

Santorum, a 1980 PSU graduate, is one of the school's most distinguished alumni - a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination who represented Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate from 1995 to 2007. A social conservative and champion of adoption, Santorum is staking his candidacy on an appeal to family values.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepol...psus-sandusky/
I am very slowly catching up on this thread but my god it makes so much sense that Santorum is a PSU alumni. The worst people on Earth are from PSU it seems.
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