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11-10-2011 , 06:37 PM
"I think one day you'll be able to write a book about this, when it *all* comes out..."

Haha wtf does that mean, Corbett? (BTW, I like this guy, seems like he has a good head on his shoulders.)
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11-10-2011 , 06:37 PM
Ok ,my last post regarding the " control urges" issue.

I reiterated what a previous poster said where he didn't completely believe that people could not suppress their urges to rape 10 year old boys.

Someone call me ignorant, and stated that it was not simply an issue of willpower, and several people agreed with him, citing 'numerous' studies that support his argument.

Yes I agree, to a certain extent, that serial child molestors, rapist, or murderers, or w/e the case may be may be not able to control their urges.

I will also state that there are way more people who have deviant sexual fantasies, or would be a serial rapist or murderer, who do not act upon those desires, than there are those that do.

Of course there are studies that explain why the serial pedophile cannot resist his urges. All I am saying is that there are way more would-be pedophiles who never act upon it, and of course there are not too many studies that deal with their 'willpower', so to speak.

Basically, the argument is that pedophiles can't help themselves, when I believe that the number of people with the same deviant fanatsies who never act upon it, far outweighs the number that do.
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11-10-2011 , 06:38 PM
In less surprising news, Mike Wilbon is saying dumb stuff on TV right now.
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11-10-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
A few random questions for people schooled in human psychology and coping mechanisms for people who were sexually vicitimized
Also, was McQueary ever around the program as a kid? Is it possible that he was ever a victim of Sandusky?
He grew up in State College. Sandusky's son was in his class. McQuery's dad coached Mike and one of the Sanduskys football teams as kids.

That is the other angle Sandusky was someone he knew growing up.

Not sure how that impacts your reaction to the crime. But his reaction or lack of it may not be due to football but due to it being potentially a family friend.
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11-10-2011 , 06:40 PM
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Corbett presser

Looks like it's not starting for a little while. I'm guessing the "reporter" from last night didn't get an invite, but I wish he did.
Kim Jones on the FAN talked about that press conference.. She showed up hoping to get in with her WFAN credentials and nobody checked anything. She said anybody showed up, and random people were shouting questions. She said it was the most bizarre thing she had ever seen.
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11-10-2011 , 06:42 PM
The sister of one of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims is going through hell as a junior at Penn State, the Patriot-News reports.
Here's what she told Sara Ganim:

“I’ve been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still really hard to swallow that.”

The student says she "can't escape it," and that people are losing sight of the victims. Amazingly, she wasn't sickened by the idiotic riots that erupted on campus the last two nights. And she doesn't blame Joe Paterno:

“I had a bunch of friends that actually went,” the sister said. “I have mixed feelings about that. Joe, I think, did what he was supposed to do and was focused on his team. I never blamed him.
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11-10-2011 , 06:45 PM
I am torn on the McQueary situation though. It's hard to say in one sentence that McQueary did not do enough just by telling Paterno, and in the next say that Joe Paterno is/was the most powerful person at Penn St. at the time.


I do agree with a previous poster who states that McQueary is more important to the actual game Saturday than Paterno. Whether that had anything to do with the BoT not dismissing him, I have no idea.
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11-10-2011 , 06:47 PM
Someone said that CNN reported that the sister said Joe should have finished out the year. I'm scratching my head at that one.
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11-10-2011 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dstock
I am torn on the McQueary situation though. It's hard to say in one sentence that McQueary did not do enough just by telling Paterno, and in the next say that Joe Paterno is/was the most powerful person at Penn St. at the time.
No it isn't
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11-10-2011 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dstock
I am torn on the McQueary situation though. It's hard to say in one sentence that McQueary did not do enough just by telling Paterno, and in the next say that Joe Paterno is/was the most powerful person at Penn St. at the time.


I do agree with a previous poster who states that McQueary is more important to the actual game Saturday than Paterno. Whether that had anything to do with the BoT not dismissing him, I have no idea.
get your head out of the sand.

He was an eyewitness to an alleged rape of a child. Instead of calling the police or stopping the alleged incident, he turned a blind eye to it which allowed the boy to be further assaulted and told Paterno sometime later.
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11-10-2011 , 06:48 PM
She quite clearly said she doesnt blame JoePa at all...
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11-10-2011 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ut2010

“I had a bunch of friends that actually went,” the sister said. “I have mixed feelings about that. Joe, I think, did what he was supposed to do and was focused on his team. I never blamed him.
Seriously, even a sibling of a victim has fallen to the JoePa cult of personality? How is doing nothing doing what he is "supposed to do". What the hell is wrong with these people?
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11-10-2011 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dstock
I am torn on the McQueary situation though. It's hard to say in one sentence that McQueary did not do enough just by telling Paterno, and in the next say that Joe Paterno is/was the most powerful person at Penn St. at the time.
this is the guy who walked into a shower room, saw a man anally raping a 10 year old, and just went home, right?
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11-10-2011 , 06:50 PM
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calm the f down
What are you upset about? Wait... 6'7" Nebraskan with a German sounding name... I bet you have blond hair just like Sandusky the pedofile.

Spoiler:
Relax, I don't think everyone with light hair is a pedofile. I mean I don't know for sure, how could I? But I don't think they are.
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11-10-2011 , 06:53 PM
Barry Switzer weighs in on the matter (restating the obvious really):

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“Having been in this profession a long time and knowing how close coaching staffs are, I knew that this was a secret that was kept secret,” Switzer said. “Everyone on that staff had to have known, the ones that had been around a long time.”

Those are chilling words. They are the most disturbing missives, not in a week filled with heinous reports and atrocious news, but read again what Switzer said. Everyone had to have known.

Everyone.

If that doesn't cause a chill to run up your spin, nothing will.

“You think that a 13-year assistant … hasn't told someone else?” Switzer said. “His wife? His father? People knew. The community knew.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/penn-state-tragedy...#ixzz1dLVF0qgV
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11-10-2011 , 06:53 PM
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2008 map of kids served by second mile

looks kind of like a risk board
dont forget there was a massive catholic church scandal in the altoona region in the 80s and 90s. altoona is like 40 min from happy valley. most of the priest molesters went free due statute of limitations but the positive is that it prompted the state to change the statute of limitations for molestation. sandusky walks if those laws dont get changed.
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11-10-2011 , 06:56 PM
cant believe redhead isnt fired or relieved.

He did pretty much as bad as what Paterno did.
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11-10-2011 , 06:57 PM
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cant believe redhead isnt fired or relieved.

He did pretty much as bad as what Paterno did.
C'mon, what he did was worse

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this is the guy who walked into a shower room, saw a man anally raping a 10 year old, and just went home, right?
but yeah, agree with the first bit of your post
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11-10-2011 , 06:57 PM
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I've thought about volunteering for some of these things, but the whole fear of being falsely implicated by some troubled kid is definitely a big deterrent.
i do a LOT with the kids at my school. after school all the time watching movies, starting a poker club, tutoring, advanced learning, etc. and a lot of the time i end up having to take kids home. never have even blinked about it (parents always know ahead of time, usually because they couldn't come get them themselves), though it's almost always boys (i have taken 3 female sisters home a lot, i was decently close with their mother) but i guess i never really thought that a boy could accuse me all the same.

i probably won't change, because i'm one of those 'genuinely cares' people. but that said, i guess i do leave myself open to this kind of thing because i feel like the kids and the parents know i'm legit and trying to help.

i dunno. probably something i should consider. i know me saying that the kids that i'm around 'after hours' or coaching or whatever i'm doing i've had for several years and i know their parents and blahblahblah means nothing in the end, but NOT trying to help/motivate/see succeed isn't something that i could probably do at this point in my life.
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11-10-2011 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ut2010
The sister of one of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims is going through hell as a junior at Penn State, the Patriot-News reports.
Here's what she told Sara Ganim:

“I’ve been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still really hard to swallow that.”

The student says she "can't escape it," and that people are losing sight of the victims. Amazingly, she wasn't sickened by the idiotic riots that erupted on campus the last two nights. And she doesn't blame Joe Paterno:

“I had a bunch of friends that actually went,” the sister said. “I have mixed feelings about that. Joe, I think, did what he was supposed to do and was focused on his team. I never blamed him.
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Someone said that CNN reported that the sister said Joe should have finished out the year. I'm scratching my head at that one.
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She quite clearly said she doesnt blame JoePa at all...
Tough to say anyone would want to be tougher on an offender than the sister of a victim. If she's not blaming paterno its hard for me to feel as if I should.

I defended Paterno earlier itt but was starting to come around to the sentiment against him and now I'm doubting myself again.
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11-10-2011 , 06:58 PM
For those who missed the Mark May rant on ESPN before:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7217029
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11-10-2011 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Tough to say anyone would want to be tougher on an offender than the sister of a victim.
Uh... probably the victim would?
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11-10-2011 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
this is the guy who walked into a shower room, saw a man anally raping a 10 year old, and just went home, right?
Basically, I don't know the exact act being committed at the time, but when I initially heard it, the report was that McQueary saw them, they saw him, then they ( Sandusky and the child) left, or ran away was how I heard it.

But I am sure that there are 'numerous' studies that show McQueary could not control his urge or did not have the willpower to not remain silent at the time.
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11-10-2011 , 07:01 PM
Sure she would feel differently if it was the 2002 incident where Paterno and McQuery both knew and did little.
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11-10-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dstock
Basically, I don't know the exact act being committed at the time, but when I initially heard it, the report was that McQueary saw them, they saw him, then they ( Sandusky and the child) left, or ran away was how I heard it.

But I am sure that there are 'numerous' studies that show McQueary could not control his urge or did not have the willpower to not remain silent at the time.
You are making a lot of bad posts in this thread.
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