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11-09-2011 , 06:40 PM

#2601

Bdidd

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Originally Posted by NozeCandy

Bdidd your earlier posts were idiotic. Fact.

ok. Which one(s)?

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11-09-2011 , 06:41 PM

#2602

SharkTank43

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Originally Posted by grizy

wtf, did all these hillbillys get off the short bus? This picture is hilarious. Notice the moron in front with the rolled up khaki legs. Also, fat chick with sweatpants/sandals and the laughably bad hat/sign ftl

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11-09-2011 , 06:41 PM

#2603

Aloysius

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios

I've been waiting for this guy (Max Kennerly, a Philadelphia plaintiff's attorney) to weigh in on the potential civil liability issues in the Penn State case and he finally did:

http://www.litigationandtrial.com/20...abuse-lawsuit/

I'd highly recommend reading the whole thing as it addresses both the soverign immunity and statute of limitations issues.

Interesting link, thanks for it.

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Thus, the question is if the Penn State victims had claims that had not expired under the old statute of limitations — which happens two years after their 18th birthday — when the extended statute became effective on August 27, 2002.

Victim 1 was “11 or 12″ in “2005 or 2006″ and so is still a minor.
Victim 2 was “estimated” by the graduate student to be “ten years old” in March 2002. Assuming that’s correct, Victim 2 turned 18 at some point in March 2010.
Victim 3 is now 24 years old and alleged indecent contact in 2000.
Victim 4 was abused 1996 or 1997 and is now 27 years old.
Victim 5 was abused in 1996-1998 and is now 22 years old.
Victim 6 was abused in 1998 and is now 24 years old.
Victim 7 was abused in 1994 and is now 26 years old.
Victim 8 “between 11 and 13″ in 2000 and so today would be at most 24 years old.

All of those victims seem to have made it — but one just barely. Consider Victim 4: he’s 27 now, and so turned 18 in 2002, potentially before the extended statute became effective. The only reason his claim was extended was because he was in the two-year window of filing.

There are already rumors of other victims,and the Pennsylvania Attorney General is reaching out to identify other potential victims. What happens to the other victims who are a little older? They’re certainly contemporaries of many of the other victims, but they may be denied their day in court just because they turned 18 before August 27, 2000, and thus either their two years ran out before the statute of limitations was extended or they have turned 30 years old.

Is that at all fair? I don’t think so. They’re all contemporaries, and all abused within a few years of each other, so the normal arguments for shortening the discovery rule — like the fading of memories and the loss of evidence — apply just the same to all. Yet, through a quirk of politics designed to protect the Archdioceses from responsibility for clergy abuse cases, some can seek civil justice while others cannot.

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11-09-2011 , 06:42 PM

#2604

Will_the_thrill

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Originally Posted by SharkTank43

you wont get it.

that's ok though.

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11-09-2011 , 06:42 PM

#2605

Aloysius

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Also - if Pennsylvania State law fails to fully prosecute these guys, hopefully Federal law will nail them.

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11-09-2011 , 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloysius

Spanier has apparently just submitted his resignation (BoT will formally announce later tonight).

http://twitter.com/#!/alexgilliland9...52565432356864

This guy has apparently broken the story.

SBnation has picked it up:

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...-state-scandal

I approve of this development!

If you missed it from all the yelling at bdidd (who, btw, don't remember his earlier posts but think he's been pretty reasonable from what I've read).

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11-09-2011 , 06:44 PM

#2607

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Originally Posted by Will_the_thrill

you wont get it.

that's ok though.

PLease explain.....is he trying to dress up like Paterno?

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11-09-2011 , 06:46 PM

#2608

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WIth the number of victims and what the church had to pay out, I am thinking the next question is how PSU's endowment funds are structured.

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11-09-2011 , 06:46 PM

#2609

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those rolled up khakis man wtf

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11-09-2011 , 06:46 PM

#2610

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios

Nice article. I'm a few paragraphs in and just came across this gem.

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In 2000, janitors saw him performing oral sex on a child in the shower room, but they discussed it only amongst themselves. Nothing happened.

Hopefully someone goes after the janitors in this case. They come even worse than the coaching staff.

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11-09-2011 , 06:48 PM

#2611

Aloysius

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator

Hopefully someone goes after the janitors in this case. They come even worse than the coaching staff.

+1

**** the powerless janitors who were legitimately afraid to lose their jobs! Clearly much worse when compared to McQueary, Paterno and Spanier!

(Actually I just read the janitors, along with Spanier, officially submitted their resignations, maybe you're on to something)

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11-09-2011 , 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator

Hopefully someone goes after the janitors in this case. They come even worse than the coaching staff.

No, they really don't. It's not even particularly close, either.

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11-09-2011 , 06:51 PM

#2613

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Originally Posted by grizy

WIth the number of victims and what the church had to pay out, I am thinking the next question is how PSU's endowment funds are structured.

The Catholic Church paid a ton of money but had a ****load of priests around the country violating hundreds if not thousands of kids. PSU had it appears one sick **** perpetrating these crimes.

The school is gonna pay a boatload no doubt about it, but I don't think any comparison to the Catholic Church is relevant but for maybe the average cost of a settlement paid by the church per victim.

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11-09-2011 , 06:51 PM

#2614

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No, they really don't. It's not even particularly close, either.

By the coaching staff, I mean McQ. At least he attempted something. They did nothing.

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11-09-2011 , 06:51 PM

#2615

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bdidd hasn't been too bad so let's just stop that back and forth.

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11-09-2011 , 06:52 PM

#2616

Will_the_thrill

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PSU janitors are hilarious btw.

I have funny stories about them when I went to school there (fairly recently) but that's for a different day...

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11-09-2011 , 06:53 PM

#2617

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator

Nice article. I'm a few paragraphs in and just came across this gem.

Hopefully someone goes after the janitors in this case. They come even worse than the coaching staff.

The janitor who allegedly witnessed something is older than dirt now and in a home with dementia. Could not testify before the grand jury according to the presentment.

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11-09-2011 , 06:54 PM

#2618

Will_the_thrill

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

PSU wont cut and run from this, this is an "isolated" case that isn't pervasive throughout the university.

The Catholic Church however.....

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11-09-2011 , 06:56 PM

#2619

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Apparently sandusky coached for a bit at BU (my alma mater) in the 60s. Wouldn't be surprised if there's some victims up here too.

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11-09-2011 , 06:58 PM

#2620

Jameson Bond

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Originally Posted by Will_the_thrill

you wont get it.

that's ok though.

It's probably not a great idea to play the "it's a PSU thing, you wouldn't get it" card anymore. Do you see why?

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11-09-2011 , 06:58 PM

#2621

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the similarity with church and university is of course how they kept it in house instead of going to cops. maybe some good can come of this as other institutions might wake up and report to police if the risks in terms of money and reputation are too high.

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11-09-2011 , 06:59 PM

#2622

Will_the_thrill

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Originally Posted by Jameson Bond

It's probably not a great idea to play the "it's a PSU thing, you wouldn't get it" card anymore. Do you see why?

dont really care. it's inconsequential, really

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11-09-2011 , 07:01 PM

#2623

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Not sure how McQueary and Joe can possibly face different fates.

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11-09-2011 , 07:03 PM

#2624

Aloysius

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Not sure how McQueary and Joe can possibly face different fates.

On a State level at least, I posted earlier that in order to coax McQueary's "confession" about seeing Sandusky sodomize a little boy in 2002, he cut a deal with the AG's office. Who knows, just a random guess (LFS thought this was possible as well, think he actually suggested this as a possibility).

I would think on a Federal level (if it ever gets there), they have the same culpability if there is any from a legal standpoint.

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11-09-2011 , 07:07 PM

#2625

AtThe Aquarium

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Does this look like a guy who is doing anything at all? No headset, not talking to anyone, not giving any indication the he knows what planet he's on.

It looks like he's thinking about saying something.

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