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That's right - the police did follow-up on it and report to the DA (who mysteriously disappeared - btw on that front, the NY Times has picked up on that story as have other mainstream outlets - my head asplode if that turns out to have any legs!)

And Dye, I get your some kind of PSU apologist... but come on man - Sandusky confessed to molesting a kid and cops overheard him confess - how could that ever be deemed "insufficient evidence"?

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11-09-2011 , 03:59 PM

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If the cops heard him confess to a mother 13 years ago why hasn't he already done a decade in prison?

Welcome to the thread!

Also worth asking:

If a PSU GA walked in on him anally raping a 10 year old and told Paterno, the AD, and the VP who was in charge of University Police than why hasn't he already spent 9 years in prison????

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11-09-2011 , 04:00 PM

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Ah, so the police did follow-up on it and report to the DA (who mysteriously disappeared - btw on that front, the NY Times has picked up on that story as have other mainstream outlets - my head asplode if that turns out to have any legs!)

And Dye, I get your some kind of PSU apologist... but come on man - Sandusky confessed to molesting a kid and cops overheard him confess - how could that ever be deemed "insufficient evidence"?

I believe Sandusky's answer to the mother's question of did Sandusky's junk touch her son was something like "I don't know...maybe" He did go on to apologize to her and tell her he wishes he was dead.

Certainly enough to make anyone think that the guy is guilty as sin but not a rock solid confession by any stretch.

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11-09-2011 , 04:03 PM

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I don't think a confession to be rock solid has to clearly state the crime and culpability. That Sandusky had to say "Ma'am, at 10:30PM I did in fact place my hands on your son's genitalia and fondle him in appropriately".

I think this cop's testimony is rock solid as a confession from Sandusky, but who knows IANAL.

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11-09-2011 , 04:03 PM

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haha

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11-09-2011 , 04:06 PM

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From Joe Paterno's Retirement Statement released today:

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At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

How beneficent of you Mr. Paterno. Always looking out for others.

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11-09-2011 , 04:07 PM

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JP - yeah the Paterno spin is unbelievably lol - I think I read Paterno's camp hired a well respected PR firm used to dealing with crisis situations. Haha, so bad.

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11-09-2011 , 04:09 PM

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but this makes me think it is not the fault of the university, paterno, or anyone else surrounding the schoo. If it was reported to police AND police heard a direct confession then it sounds like the school did its job.

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11-09-2011 , 04:09 PM

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I love how ESPN has to subtitle his rambling speech from last night.

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11-09-2011 , 04:10 PM

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ESPN is basically making JoePa out to be some kind of martyr. Its getting more and more insane

There's very little real journalism in the world anymore, and certainly not at ESPN.

They tell the story they want to, or the story they think people want, not necessarily the story as it actually is.

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11-09-2011 , 04:11 PM

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not a single outlet is reporting the story as it actually is. Thats not where the money is. If they wanted to report it as it is then they would just read the Grand Jury report and offer NO comments or opinions of their own.

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11-09-2011 , 04:12 PM

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Please stop. You've had some interesting stances but this is straight up trolling. The area of focus is around the 2002 incident, where the police were not notified and there was an ensuing ~10 year long cover-up on the Penn State administration's part.

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11-09-2011 , 04:13 PM

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I am. Although I don't practice criminal law.

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11-09-2011 , 04:14 PM

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I am. Although I don't practice criminal law.

Well then - if you're not a criminal lawyer, why is it relevant you're a lawyer regarding the strength of a confession in a criminal matter?

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11-09-2011 , 04:15 PM

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Who's this ****ing burnout from Grantland that's become the authority on all things Penn State constantly on ESPN? Get off ma screen hippie.

Oh, just looked him up. He wrote "Bigger Than The Game", which was actually a decent book, not great, liked the info.

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11-09-2011 , 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise

Why is Penn State even allowed to play another game this season?

The whole issue revolves around putting football above everything else. Even now, Penn State seems entirely focused on the football and this season. They just don't get it. It's time to take football away for the rest of the season. It's beyond time. It's a game.

The entire culture needs a change. Remove the football.

Don't let the school profit from covering-up stuff to protect the football moneybags.

this. Really quite shocked so many smart posters itt are taking the stance that "the football suffering accomplishes nothing". Of course it accomplishes a lot in making this situation right and repairing PSU's reputation.

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PSU needs to demonstrate that football is of lesser importance. They could do that several ways, but have not as of yet.

The players are also victims to some degree regardless if any games are missed.

NCAA frequently hands out punishment to programs whose current players had nothing to do with the cited offenses.

The players shouldn't suffer argument is just lol bad. Tons of innocent college athletes have suffered at other programs for the (way less heinous) actions of people above them.

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It is possible to actually report the truth AND give comments and opinions on said facts.

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11-09-2011 , 04:21 PM

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Certainly the IANAL acronym is a bit unfortunate here.

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11-09-2011 , 04:21 PM

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kc - it felt wrong typing it, imo.

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11-09-2011 , 04:21 PM

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It's also going to be an absolute circus the rest of this year at away games. It might be better for everyone involved to just let things cool down for a year, then come back with a completely new staff.

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11-09-2011 , 04:21 PM

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I actually did simply forget that the incident where police heard a confession was prior to the one in the Grand Jury report that is being discussed.

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11-09-2011 , 04:21 PM

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Heath Evans is killing it on OTL right now and he has been killing it on other radio shows all week.

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11-09-2011 , 04:22 PM

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yeah apparently the only thing that can justify cancelling football games is if they are unprofitable.

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11-09-2011 , 04:22 PM

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I'm thinking how ugly the road game at OhioState is going to be

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11-09-2011 , 04:23 PM

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Well then - if you're not a criminal lawyer, why is it relevant you're a lawyer regarding the strength of a confession in a criminal matter?

First, I, like everyone, believe that Sandusky is guilty as sin.

I do know a little something about evidence and trial work though. What they got out of Sandusky, while compelling in terms of evidence suggestive of his guilt, is not a garden variety "confession" by definition. A confession is "yes I did it" type of stuff. That isn't what they got here.

Semantics really but worthy to note nonetheless.

And the relevance of my being a lawyer is nothing more than a shameless barg LDO.

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