From. Orbit.

This frat is on campus btw. There are Penn State classroom buildings literally surrounding it.

who the **** says yes to doing that? like, I’m sitting here saying “picture me saying ‘yeah okay I’ll put my fin... naaah’” but really, they actually got people to do that? the ****?

not to defend this scumbag of a university, but most schools ignore the hazing that goes on in both fraternities and sororities and the acts described are very comparable to stories Ive heard.

I guess I just completely fail to understand how human beings come to engage in that behavior.

I mean, making another person ingest semen and cat piss? Seriously?

Separately, you're coming off a massive scandal that ruined the school's reputation for a generation or more, where the problem was covering up horrible behavior, and within a few years you do the exact same thing? WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON UP THERE?

Yup, the entire Greek system is just chock full of rotten people. When I was in school one of the sororities got one of their pledges to drink herself to death. The girl was like 100 lbs. and they got her to drink a fifth of Jim Beam by herself.

ya I thought all those frat stories were just like, urban legends, meant to scare the pledges.

The entire thing has always looked insane to me as a non American. It encourages tribalistic, sadistic behaviour. Like I know people will say "oh it's just a bit of fun" but look at what the message is: basically that other people's suffering is a game.

wait you guys didn't do the elephant walk when you were in college? Thought that was totally standard.

What the **** is wrong with those people there?

The whole point is to break you down, and then build you back up as a loyal frat member. It's like military boot camp.

****, the students knew about those exact hazing rituals (elephant walk, crate race etc.) when I was going there in the early 2000s. I knew people who did those things and worse. The idea that the university either didn't know or couldn't do anything is absurd. It was an issue that came up yearly. The uni would say they'd do something, wait until the issue was swept away and then never did anything or would do it in a half-assed way.

I'm glad I went to a smaller school where the frats knew they didn't have enough clout to pull that ****. Worse I heard of was making the guys run across campus in their underwear or crawl through a muddy ditch. Still it was enough to keep me away. So pathetic at homecoming seeing the older guys come back and party with the current members.

Well scratch that - except for the black frats who still openly beat up their pledges on the campus lawn. Omega Psi Phi (the ones that still brand afaik) had no members at our school. But our best football player wanted to pledge - so they sent a few guys up from MU to publicly humiliate him and beat him up for a weekend.

Oh yeah - also I remember a kid throwing up brown liquid after pledge night, his head draped into a urinal. When we walked into the dorm bathroom all he could say was "Please don't piss on me." So I'm assuming that had already happened. Gotta admit it was a little tempting to just twist my friend 90 degrees while he was pissing. Later an ambulance showed up and took the kid to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. Just kids having fun - you PC nanny state killjoy.

He became the "please don't piss on me" guy for the rest of college.

It's just an American phenomenon and could never happen in Australia.

lol military.

SUB, Jimmy,

It seems a reasonable percentage of PSU alums are very realistic about this stuff. Why is the University still AIDS?

Are they? I wouldn't know. I haven't been back since I graduated 10 years ago.

St Pauls College at USyd has been called out for hazing rituals and general behavioural problems multiple times without severe punishment, it happens here all the time. St Johns at USyd as well. Aah the old alma mater

It happens here for sure, but it's far less widespread and my impression is there's less institutional tolerance, could be wrong about that though.

It's less widespread because there's far fewer colleges and people living on campus or in residential colleges compared to the US. It's 100% tolerated here, as an example:
Several students involved were kicked out of the college but nobody was expelled from the university and they were allowed to apply for other colleges. There are so many instances of stories like this with no real repercussions

Yeah, possibly it is just that there are less residential colleges. Insane that the students responsible were not expelled.

It would be pretty simple to just say zero tolerance of hazing rituals, anyone presiding over them will be expelled. I assume universities can do what they like re expelling people for bad behaviour. It's not like you'd have to thrash out the definition of "hazing rituals" in a court of law. And it's not like banning hazing rituals is some kind of draconian thing where nobody is allowed to have fun anymore.

In America the greek system is patronized by students whose parents are generally capable of making sizable donations to the school. I always saw it as a way for the rich students to self-segregate. No rich kid is getting expelled.

The Greek system at universities has outlived it usefulness. That said, the above post is correct - how in the fvck could pedo univ let this happen after knowing of the behavior while it is trying to clean up its child rape image nationally? Oh wait ... that's how. They simply don't give a ratsass. The cult is alive and well.