Brazil spent $5 billion but thats ok, we are rich.

I'm shocked by the posts arguing Lochte and company were robbed at gunpoint after the facts have come out.

Here is a CNN legal analyst saying that what the Brazilian cops described (accepting it all as 100% true) would be robbery in the US.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2016...sis-nr-sot.cnn

The other CNN legal analyst I saw (Mark Geragos) said the exact same thing - gun + demand for money = robbery.

lot of nitpicking here

I don't give a **** that it is robbery in the US, lol.

We're talking about the murder capital of the world.

Thinking you can just stroll around Earth and the US legal system follows you is crazy.

If the swimmers were demanding that the gunman be prosecuted you would have a point.

And let's be clear, drunk *******s refusing to initially pay for damages then reconsidering while detained (gunpoint, bouncer, closed club door) waiting for police, happens all the time and is never getting charged as robbery. Just as they also wouldn't get charged with public urination, vandalism, drunk and disorderly conduct, leaving scene of a crime, attempted bribery, falsification of a police report, wasting clearly scarce police resources, driving 2p2 forum traffic, first degree douchebaggery and whatever.

Oh wait, Lochte has been charged with public urination and disorderly conduct in the US in the past. My bad. Turns out they are forgiving in Brazil.

BUT WHY DIDN'T LOCHTE KNOW THAT ROBBERY IN THE US IS NOT ROBBERY IN BRAZIL? HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER SAID HE WAS ROBBED IF ITS ONLY ROBBERY IN HIS HOME COUNTRY AND NOT WHERE IT TOOK PLACE.

Jokes on him. As soon as he pays he's getting charged with offering a bribe.

CDL,

Lol not the issue at all. Making up total bull****, in an actual police report, from a nothing incident where he was a drunken fool and forcing the police and media to follow up for five days is. Do you believe he actually thought he was robbed and wronged based on his actions and we know today?

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/20...-olympics.html

I think the key point that the CNN legal analyst left out was that the swimmers, according to the statements two of them made to police, were offered the option of either paying some money or waiting for the cops and decided to pay the money.

At that point the elements for a robbery or extortion just don't exist, regardless of whether a gun is involved or not. The choices weren't pay or get shot. The choices were pay or deal with the cops. The gun was used to keep them from leaving, not to demand they pay money.

And yet, somehow, they screwed things up to the point that they paid the money, still had to deal with the cops and became an international joke.

But please keep trying to defend these guys.

You are really reaching here. I know he's a dumbass but you seem to have some illogical hate towards Lochte. I don't think anyone knows what the police report says. You are assuming the police report is what Lochte says in his interview. It could be more in line with what actually happened.

We also don't know if it was just a security guard detaining them and waiting for police. Why don't we know that? Because the video footage of that time frame was mysteriously deleted/hidden by the gas station or the Brazilian authorities. I'm guessing it was much worse than you are assuming.

You are also assuming the bathroom was trashed. We have pictures. It wasn't. A sign was torn a little, and a ****ty door may have had it's lock broken. And they may have peed on the floor (it's a public restroom at a gas station, so I'm sure they aren't the first to do that that night). And I don't think it's considered public urination if it's in a bathroom, even if you are peeing on the floor.

Yes, I think Lochte embellished the **** out of the story, probably to sound cool and get more ladies. But i do actually think he thought he was robbed. There is a middle ground between (a) Lochte not getting robbed and making everything up and (b) Lochte's original story. From everything I've seen that's what actually happened (of course the video could tell us exactly what happened but they won't show that for some suspicious reason). He was robbed, but it was nowhere near the type of robbery he described in the interview. I don't see how there is much debate about it at this point.

I wrote all that before I saw the interview with the witness you posted. If that's true, it would obviously change things a bit. I would still like to see the video though.

So you should feel less threatened imo

I think he was actually robbed.

I do enjoy your description of acquiescing to an armed person's demands for your money as "attempted bribery".

I think he probably did think he was robbed since they gave money to a guy with a gun. I think its quite likely he also thinks he was wronged because he is an entitled and very stupid douchebag who probably gets away with all kinds of ridiculous behavior quite regularly so it was out of the norm when there was fallout this time.

How is Clark the only person making any sense itt?

That green tea has got your head all ****ed up

Here were his choices:

1. Try to pay his way out of it in the moment for the damages and settle it privately.

2. Wait for the police.

By doing #1 it does not imply he was robbed at all. I'm sure the gas station people would have gladly waited for the police to arrive and settle it, instead they took money to not cause a huge scene and go on with their lives. Unfortunately the ignorance of the perpetrators knows no bounds and it became an even bigger issue.

If the security guy doesn't have a gun is everyone saying they got robbed backing down?

Clearly you guys are hung up on the wrong detail somewhere, I'm just not sure what it is.

Duh.

"Hey man, you broke my door, give me some money for it."

"Ok"

Not robbery.

*Pointing loaded weapon at you* "Hey man, you broke my door, give me money for it"

"Ok"

Robbery.

Threatening someone kinda alters decision making.

Ha - had no idea the term originated with aborigines. I met tons of Aussies on Walkabouts at various rock climbing areas around the US which is how I learned the term.

is this post a joke? yes, the threat of a gun matters