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Olympics: RIO Trainwreck Containment - Lochte and others, whatever Olympics: RIO Trainwreck Containment - Lochte and others, whatever

08-18-2016 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
Golf is serious business.
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08-18-2016 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
The point is it's a completely different story than "We were the victims of hijackers disguised as police." or "We were the victims of one of those taxis who deliver tourists to robbers." Like the whole part about being victims instead of jerks.
I agree with you that they were drunken jerks. It seems ridiculous though, to pull out a deadly weapon over some petty vandalism.

Scenario: Would everyone be fine with a white U.S. cop in a black neighborhood pulling a gun on 3 unarmed black men in their 20's who just trashed a fast food restaurant while they were intoxicated? It just needlessly escalates a very minor situation into a potentially deadly one.
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08-18-2016 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
If we get in an accident and you try to drive away, I can stop you from doing so. That's the law. Just look at the video I posted. That guy isn't going to jail.



And no one is saying these guys were extorted except Lochte. Everyone else is saying the guys decided to pay the $50 rather than wait around for the cops.



How can you not understand that it is really pretty likely that what happened is what everyone except Lochte who was involved in this has said what happened?


Feigen has maintained they were robbed to this point.

They didn't decide to do anything. They gave money because they were in Rio with a dude pointing a gun at them. Someone pointing a gun at you and taking your money is robbery, period.

Re: the rear ending situation, sure you can try and stop me from leaving, but if you take my cash/wallet at gunpoint that's no good. Brandishing weapons and coercing people into giving you stuff is generally frowned upon in developed civilization.
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08-18-2016 , 10:53 PM
Man... When Clark takes a side, he takes a side.

It's like he's a super-villain, maybe like Magneto?.... And he's just born with superpowers! But instead of actual super-magnetic powers, he's got super-mega-elite republican powers, naturally instilled in his DNA, but, unlike Magneto, he's consciously using them for good, not evil. In his opinion.
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08-18-2016 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
Brandishing weapons and coercing people into giving you stuff is generally frowned upon in developed civilization.
So Arizona is not developed?

And there is literally zero evidence these guys were coerced into anything beyond what Lochte said. And has he really proven to be credible up to this point?

As far as US laws regarding brandishing, I honestly have no idea. I would think pointing a gun at someone is illegal, but it seems to happen an awful lot in the US.

I also don't know what the law is in Brazil, which is all that really matters. But it seems pretty obvious that the security guard isn't being investigated, which of course everyone will blame on the criminal justice system of that country, despite the fact that I posted pretty credible evidence that people don't get prosecuted for it in the US, either, for whatever reason.
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08-18-2016 , 11:00 PM
You surely can't point a gun at someone if you get in an accident with them, and you can't point a gun at someone just because they committed a crime.
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08-18-2016 , 11:07 PM
Evidently Feigen is still in country without a passport.
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08-18-2016 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
I agree with you that they were drunken jerks. It seems ridiculous though, to pull out a deadly weapon over some petty vandalism.

Scenario: Would everyone be fine with a white U.S. cop in a black neighborhood pulling a gun on 3 unarmed black men in their 20's who just trashed a fast food restaurant while they were intoxicated? It just needlessly escalates a very minor situation into a potentially deadly one.
I'm not even saying I'm OK with the gun-pulling, but I'm not really familiar with the job requirements for a gas station security guard in Rio. I do not know if they're just supposed to be armed so as to shoo away hijackers, or robbers, or if bathroom defense comes up frequently. I do know that nobody working at 6 am wants to deal with four athletic angry pissy (and probably gassy) drunks who don't speak the language.
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08-18-2016 , 11:11 PM
So Rio still #1 for u.s. middle age white bros with money to chill at, right?
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08-18-2016 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Doctor
Man... When Clark takes a side, he takes a side.

It's like he's a super-villain, maybe like Magneto?.... And he's just born with superpowers! But instead of actual super-magnetic powers, he's got super-mega-elite republican powers, naturally instilled in his DNA, but, unlike Magneto, he's consciously using them for good, not evil. In his opinion.
Gotta believe Stalin is Clark's hero.

Last edited by seattlelou; 08-18-2016 at 11:27 PM.
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08-18-2016 , 11:21 PM
Lochte just a kid who made a mistake
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08-19-2016 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mullen
I didn't say they fabricated nothing. I said the entire story was not completely fabricated. Which is accurate.

Correct, if they didn't DESTROY and VANDALIZE the gas station bathroom they wouldn't have been robbed at gunpoint!

Pics of the DESTRUCTION from TMZ:









Check out the carnage on that brand new sign. And God knows the manpower it took to break down that state-of-the-art door with a special locking system. Unreal. Who knows how many more drunk fools they'll have to rob at gunpoint to pay for all the damage?
this post killed me
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08-19-2016 , 12:09 AM
I would wreck one of those sandwiches right now.
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08-19-2016 , 12:10 AM
As discussed before, this was likely a legitimate citizen's arrest. If its true that Lochte paid more than he owed so that he could be released before the police arrived, then he should be charged with bribery, in addition to destruction of property, public indecency and filing a false police report.
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08-19-2016 , 12:15 AM
You can get charged for bribing someone who's made a citizen arrest into letting you go?
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08-19-2016 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
You can get charged for bribing someone who's made a citizen arrest into letting you go?
In the real world using force to obtain money is extortion.
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08-19-2016 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
When all your getting is bad press and these guys create a huge dump on your country damn well you do.Id make sure they get the seven months to boot but offer a deal if Ryan comes back.

Curious to see when he gives a press conference.
Yeah, because Rio/Brazil wasn't getting **** on prior to this event. Holy ****ing pointless exercise.
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08-19-2016 , 12:27 AM
Logic would dictate that you should be, when a citizen's arrest occurs the arrester acting under the authority of the sovereign. Accepting payment would be using the power of the sovereign for personal gain., i.e. a bribe. And for there to be a bribe there must be a briber.
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08-19-2016 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
In the real world using force to obtain money is extortion.
The force was used to prevent a criminal from fleeing the scene of the crime. The briber made cash payments to remove the force legitimately applied on behalf of the sovereign. No different than if Lochte paid off a cop that arrested him for committing the crime. Of course, the cop has also committed a crime as well, no denying that.
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08-19-2016 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Dude, seriously? They said they were just minding their own business driving from point A to point B when guys acting like police hijacked and robbed them and then even outbitch-moved that by saying the taxi driver delivered them to the robbers. Turned out the entitled Olympians trashed a gas station restroom then brought their condescending words to a gun fight.

Not completely fabricated? Gimme a ****ing break.
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Originally Posted by BAIDS
4 drunk meatheads turn up at your gas station at 5am and start kicking doors in and pissing everywhere = you can get your gun out and start waving it around imo
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
The force was used to prevent a criminal from fleeing the scene of the crime. The briber made cash payments to remove the force legitimately applied on behalf of the sovereign. No different than if Lochte paid off a cop that arrested him for committing the crime. Of course, the cop has also committed a crime as well, no denying that.
I shouldn't be surprised that many of you don't think these asshats should've been held accountable, but I am. it's astonishing really. and then you double down by criticizing the country hosting the Olympics for defending its reputation after said asshats MAKE A GIANT ****ING DEAL about what happened. what's funny is that some of you are rather conservative when it comes to police conduct in America. such hypocrites.
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08-19-2016 , 12:49 AM
I, for one, am glad Brazil has devoted adequate resources to settling my curiosity and exposing these lying hooligans as the miscreant soap dispenser destroyers they are!

Seriously, Ryan Lochte excels at making Michael Phelps look like a life winner and smart. 32 year old man getting into a scuffle at a gas station then bull****ting mom and running with his idiotic adventure story, ffs. I shoulda known he'd never have the balls to kill a hooker or meth orgy with his 3 teamates. Total loser.
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08-19-2016 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
You can get charged for bribing someone who's made a citizen arrest into letting you go?
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
In the real world using force to obtain money is extortion.
I thought it was called a settlement.
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08-19-2016 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by five4suited
I shouldn't be surprised that many of you don't think these asshats should've been held accountable, but I am. it's astonishing really. and then you double down by criticizing the country hosting the Olympics for defending its reputation after said asshats MAKE A GIANT ****ING DEAL about what happened. what's funny is that some of you are rather conservative when it comes to police conduct in America. such hypocrites.
What? I clearly said the citizen arresters should be held accountable for accepting the bribe. Here in the "first world" US our cops put handcuffs on people after they shoot them dead, please do not act like the situations are in any way comparable.
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08-19-2016 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
I thought it was called a settlement.
The guys with the guns considered it a settlement. The guys that had the guns pointed at them thought it was robbery/extortion. The correct play would have been to not charge anyone and let the thing drop.
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08-19-2016 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
The guys with the guns considered it a settlement. The guys that had the guns pointed at them thought it was robbery/extortion. The correct play would have been to not charge anyone and let the thing drop.
who gets robbed and then lies to the police about who did it and how it happened?
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