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Olympics: RIO Trainwreck Containment - Lochte and others, whatever Olympics: RIO Trainwreck Containment - Lochte and others, whatever

08-19-2016 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by digables
Great pic of Ryan
As opposed to other pictures of him?
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08-19-2016 , 09:31 AM
I open the thread this morning to see what color the diving pool is, and find experts on gun laws in Virginia weighing in with their opinion on what it probably maybe means about gun laws in Rio. Time to Lochte the thread up.
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08-19-2016 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
There isn't a whole lot of difference between:

1. Fake cop pulls you out of a cab, pulls a gun, and demands money

and

2. Security guard pulls you out of a cab, pulls a gun, and asks for money
Maybe you are just too stupid to understand anything anyone tries to explain to you, but I will give it one more try.

The security guard never demanded money.

The owner of the gas station demanded money.

The security guard just kept them there until the owner showed up.

At that point the swimmers were offered two options, wait for the cops or pay for the damage.

They paid for the damage and left.

Literally everyone connected to the story, the other swimmers, the gas station owner, the police and the judge, have agreed that this is what happened.

The only person with a different version of events is Ryan Lochte.

How is this so hard to understand?
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08-19-2016 , 09:48 AM
Jsb,

Jimmy Feigen has maintained that he was robbed and just got shook down for $11k.

The other two swimmers allegedly issued statements to a corrupt police department after they were detained and barred from leaving the country.

The guard was brandishing a weapon and demanding cash. That's robbery.

Half your post is factually incorrect and the other half is robbery justification and victim blaming.
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08-19-2016 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
Maybe you are just too stupid to understand anything anyone tries to explain to you, but I will give it one more try.

The security guard never demanded money.

The owner of the gas station demanded money.

The security guard just kept them there until the owner showed up.

At that point the swimmers were offered two options, wait for the cops or pay for the damage.

They paid for the damage and left.

Literally everyone connected to the story, the other swimmers, the gas station owner, the police and the judge, have agreed that this is what happened.

The only person with a different version of events is Ryan Lochte.

How is this so hard to understand?
Where are you getting your facts? I've seen nothing saying that the security guards didn't demand money and waited till the owner showed up.

Here is a story based on interviews with the gas station employees/guards (you need to use Google translate). No mention of holding them till owner gets there.

Also, one of the guards says he indicated to them that $20 was not enough, so sounds like the people with the guns were the ones demanding more money.

http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/o...mericanos.html

Finally, the other swimmers don't agree with your version. Feigan still says they were robbed. The other two have kept quiet. It'll be interesting to see what they say once they get back to the US.

edit:

Based on a better translation, it appears that the story says the money was paid to "the station employees" (funcionários do posto) - would be odd to use that phrase to refer to the owner.

Last edited by JonnyA; 08-19-2016 at 09:56 AM.
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08-19-2016 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
Maybe you are just too stupid to understand anything anyone tries to explain to you, but I will give it one more try.

The security guard never demanded money.

The owner of the gas station demanded money.

The security guard just kept them there until the owner showed up.

At that point the swimmers were offered two options, wait for the cops or pay for the damage.

They paid for the damage and left.

Literally everyone connected to the story, the other swimmers, the gas station owner, the police and the judge, have agreed that this is what happened.

The only person with a different version of events is Ryan Lochte.

How is this so hard to understand?
The personal attack at the beginning was a nice touch, but I still read the rest of the post.

A security guard pulled a gun, correct?

Money was exchanged after a gun was pulled, correct?

Lochte was drunk, correct?

Its quite possible that a drunk guy is not lying about the events, but rather telling them as he remembered them even if his memory is completely incorrect. It is much more likely that he exaggerated some details (cocked gun to his head) and used loose terminology (fake cop) while keeping the basics of the story (pulled out of cab, guy has gun, they gave them money) in line with the truth and the gaps between his version and the truth are a mixture of failed memory (drunkenness), stupidity (loose terminology), and fabrication (exaggeration or made up pieces to make him look better).

but hey, the girl was drunk and made out with a guy at a bar so she definitely wanted a dick inside her, amirite?
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08-19-2016 , 10:08 AM
Sorry I missed amateur Lawyer hour last night. The only angle no one suggested was that the security guard was exercising his STAND YOUR GROUND rights against the drunk and agitated vandals.

Fwiw it's robbery/bribery inasmuch as every club in the world detains someone every single night demanding payment for bills or damages or we call the cops. Heck sometimes they don't even offer calling the cops.

To the extent that they were "robbed" (lol), they themselves were also guilty of public urination, vandalism, drunk and disorderly conduct, leaving scene of a crime, attempted bribery, falsification of a police report, wasting clearly scarce police resources, driving 2p2 forum traffic, first degree douchebaggery and whatever.

The clear takeaway here is lol lochte, not only as dumb as the legends, but also as big of douchebag as you could ask by letting his bros twist in the wind while he and his attorneys taunt the cops even more.

He should apologize if for no other reason than the PD chief glossed over the two girls in the other cab who he was seen making out with, which likely was part of his motive to lie. Even when super MAD, the cops in Brazil still observe bro code, unlike Lochte.
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08-19-2016 , 10:16 AM
Lochte statement:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJSwyLJB...anlochte&hl=en

Still saying that he had a gun pointed at him with a demand for money. Also taking responsibility for his actions and apologizing.
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08-19-2016 , 10:17 AM
So brave.
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08-19-2016 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
Where are you getting your facts? I've seen nothing saying that the security guards didn't demand money and waited till the owner showed up.

...

Based on a better translation, it appears that the story says the money was paid to "the station employees" (funcionários do posto) - would be odd to use that phrase to refer to the owner.
I have seen the person who made the decision to accept the money referred to both as the owner and the manager. Either way, there is a zero pecent chance the money ended up in the pocket of the security guard, who is the one being accused of the robbery.

And from the account provided by both the police and the lawyers for the swimmers, the amount demanded, $50, seems reasonable to pay for the damage that was caused.

So where is the robbery? You do $50 worth of damage, and you have to pay $50? How is this such a hard concept to understand.

The bottom line is this, the Brazilians were the ones who were super cool about everything. They could have sold that security tape to TMZ for thousands of dollars the next day, but they didn't. They could have had their cell phones out filming a drunk Ryan Lochte, but they didn't. They were the ones who were content to let everything slide by.

The dicks in this case were the Americans. It's 100 percent their fault. They were the drunk idiots that wrecked other people's stuff. They were the ones who had to blow this situation out of proportion by forcing the authorities to get involved by reporting a fake robbery.

And yet, even faced with all that evidence that the US guys weren't actually riding around on a big white horse saving the rest of the world from itself, people on here are still stiking to the narative that somebody else must be at fault.

Simply unbelievable.
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08-19-2016 , 10:19 AM
Great quote from the always colorful and oft contemptible Rio Mayor

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Rio mayor Eduardo Paes says he feels "pity & contempt" for #Lochte et al, that they don't represent all Americans, he appreciates USOC apols
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08-19-2016 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Lochte statement:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJSwyLJB...anlochte&hl=en

Still saying that he had a gun pointed at him with a demand for money. Also taking responsibility for his actions and apologizing.
Whatever
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08-19-2016 , 10:20 AM
Smart that he did it in writing rather than attempting to give a coherent an interview.
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08-19-2016 , 10:21 AM
Pretty good. I would've given more immediate attention to Brazil, its people, and its authorities before "my fans" but overall it reads well.
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08-19-2016 , 10:22 AM
Smart move for lawyering up at the least.
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08-19-2016 , 10:23 AM
Yeah his attorneys had it written yesterday. Pretty much what one would expect.

Hopefully Lochte is repaying the other swimmer his 11k donation.
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08-19-2016 , 10:29 AM
Lochte taking the high road like a true AMERICAN HERO.

He should def send an Edible Arrangements to the police dept for maintaining bro code, and maybe a charcuterie platter to the upstanding gentleman who was kind enough to accept his bribe while holding him at gunpoint. Maybe throw in some artisanal driftwood to make sure the gas station's iconic door can be fully repaired.

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08-19-2016 , 10:34 AM
You sound angry that much of the rest of the world operates outside your perceived ideal. Have you ever read any William Glasser? He has a lot of interesting things to say about that.
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08-19-2016 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MarsMuzak
I open the thread this morning to see what color the diving pool is, and find experts on gun laws in Virginia weighing in with their opinion on what it probably maybe means about gun laws in Rio. Time to Lochte the thread up.
Nobody was demanding justice for Lochte. Maybe gunpoint damage negotiations were perfectly acceptable on Brazil and the authorities thought it was would be a big boon to tourism to highlight the superior Brazilian system and Americans are dumb for thinking they were robbed.
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08-19-2016 , 10:38 AM
Not sure if this has been posted in this gigantic thread, if so, I apologize. Anyone remember this?

Lochte picks Auburn to win Texas A&M vs LSU. Dude is clueless.

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08-19-2016 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Nobody was demanding justice for Lochte. Maybe gunpoint damage negotiations were perfectly acceptable on Brazil and the authorities thought it was would be a big boon to tourism to highlight the superior Brazilian system and Americans are dumb for thinking they were robbed.
Makes sense, they probably read the news about a large number of Americans being big fans of Second Amendment remedies.
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08-19-2016 , 10:58 AM
Apparently Australia is leading the 50km racewalk event. As an Australian, obviously sincerely hoping these reports are in error.
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08-19-2016 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Apparently Australia is leading the 50km racewalk event. As an Australian, obviously sincerely hoping these reports are in error.
I thought Walkabouts was your national pastime?
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08-19-2016 , 11:16 AM
That's racist bro
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08-19-2016 , 11:18 AM
Australia has spent $340 million on this Olympics cycle. So ridiculous. If I were in charge it would be $0.
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