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08-15-2008 , 11:53 PM

#2176

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Originally Posted by Needle77

LOL @ Phelps, haha, he just got really embarrassed.

That was pretty damn funny.

It's really hard to not to root for Phelps. He seems like a very cool dude.

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08-15-2008 , 11:54 PM

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HAHA EPIC RESPONSE!!

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08-15-2008 , 11:55 PM

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It's kinda hard not to like Phelps and he seems pretty level-headed.

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08-15-2008 , 11:57 PM

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Gymnastics scoring is simple.

A score is difficulty. They add up the 10 hardest skills.

B score is execution. They start at 10 and work their way down.

A + B = score.

Yes it gets rid of the perfect 10 but so what? It strikes a better balance between difficulty and execution and allows for a little more separation among Olympic level athletes. I mean who were way kidding saying person A did something worth 9.875 and person B did something with 9.8875.

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08-15-2008 , 11:58 PM

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Mark Spitz is like a super-classy '72 dolphin.

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08-15-2008 , 11:59 PM

#2181

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Originally Posted by illusionS

does anyone know what kind of chance the usa men would have had at beating china in gymnastics if the hamm guys didn't get injured?

They might have gotten silver. Given how the chinese performed there's almost no way they would have won gold.

If Paul Hamm hadn't gotten injured though Yang Wei would have had legit competition for gold.

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08-16-2008 , 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by goofball

Gymnastics scoring is simple.

A score is difficulty. They add up the 10 hardest skills.

B score is execution. They start at 10 and work their way down

Of course. This is not complicated. It's just that the whole thing is not transparent at all in terms of how execution and difficulty actually get decided.

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08-16-2008 , 12:02 AM

#2183

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

Johnson wobbled more at one point on the beam than anyone else I saw in the competition.

Each of the chinese wobbles was likely judged a small error - 0.1
Shawn Johnson's wobble on her standing full was likely judged a large error - 0.5

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08-16-2008 , 12:03 AM

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Really amazing no one thought to invite Spitz to the Beijing for all this. I would think NBC would have been all over it.

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08-16-2008 , 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpzilla

Of course. This is not complicated. It's just that the whole thing is not transparent at all in terms of how execution and difficulty actually get decided.

I can go into more detail.

Execution is what you might imagine. Deviations from the theoretic perfect execution of a skill. It's broken down into small medium and large errors, worth -.1, -.3, and -.5 each.

Difficulty. Each skll has an assigned diffculty value. A-F, F being hardest. A skills are worth .1, B skills .2, C skills .3, and so forth.

There are also 5 special requirements (that basically everyone fulfills) worth .5 each.

So a routine of A C C F E C D B D D is worth

2.5(special requirements) + 3.5(difficulty) = 6.0 A score.

Would you like me to go on?

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08-16-2008 , 12:10 AM

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I believe Spitz did. He just didnt want to go.

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08-16-2008 , 12:10 AM

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Yes, why are you not part of the NBC broadcast team so you can make more sense of this to all of us while the event is going on, lol. All we get is "oh my she stuck the landing good score!"

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08-16-2008 , 12:10 AM

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Would you like me to go on?

We didn't even have gymnastics tonight!!! Talk about being late to the party.

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08-16-2008 , 12:13 AM

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We do understand it goof btw. We know there's mini-deductions for this and that and difficulty differences and blah blah blah, but our visceral reactions are alot more entertaining.

Especially when we were getting totally hosed by the a;lskdfj;alsdkjf judges.

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08-16-2008 , 12:18 AM

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I actually thought no one got hosed on beam. I thought they both got a little hosed on vault, nastia by quite a bit.

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08-16-2008 , 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ajmargarine

This.

Bitching is the ultimate way of saying, "damnit."

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08-16-2008 , 12:33 AM

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Bela?

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08-16-2008 , 12:34 AM

#2193

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Canada -- still without a medal.

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08-16-2008 , 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudd

Yeah, that was typical announcer overstatement. It's the semis of an Olympic race, not a sitngo with a disconnected opponent, you're not going to start without them.

QFT...I doubt that the officials wouldn't have noticed that lane two was open. I have no idea how much they would have delayed the race, if at all, but to me it looked like all Torres did was explain why the lane-two swimmer was late, at most.

Now with all the salivating NBC did over that, it looks less meaningful that it would otherwise. Maybe it wasn't a big deal, but giving the reason why is at least mildly helpful.

ETA: Okay, I've read apefish's post. Still...it just sounds pandering and silly to heap so much praise on the woman when they could have just said, "Okay, lane two tore her swimsuit and Torres is letting them know about it," or something.

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08-16-2008 , 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by IlliniLou

Bela?

Before Phelps's sick sick comeback tonight, that was my favorite part of the Olympics--watching Bela watch Liukin on that final routine of hers.

"C'mon, Olympic champion...she will be Olympic champion...C'MON...BEAUTIFUL! BEAUTIFUL!! YESS!!!!" All while grabbing and shaking Costas's arm, lol.

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08-16-2008 , 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SarcasticRat

True, but the difference is that swimming and running is a pretty tense race to the finish, and features some truly amazing athletes. I never feel like volleyball players are really unbelievable athletes the way swimmers and runners are, and half the time they're just standing around high-fiving each other. Plus you can get like 10 swimming or track races in the time it takes for them to show one volleyball match.

EDIT: Haha, Spitz basically inflating his ego while simultaneously complementing Phelps.

Obviously you haven't played volleyball. If youhaven't, the skill involved is much more than you can imagine. For whoever said the game looks the same, in the indoor game each play the setter usually has ten or more options, etc, etc....

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08-16-2008 , 12:40 AM

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3 things:

The US-Korea womens table-tennis was an enjoyable match but US lost in straight sets though it was closer IMO.

Softball off to a good start, Finch shut down Taipei in the 1st and they got an early run and saw this Taipei pitcher well.

Baseball needs to get something going right now vs Canada. 4-3 in the bottom of the 7th, Canada leading. Both are 1-2 and need to win this game to stay in this tournament.

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08-16-2008 , 12:41 AM

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What logo is on the U.S. jacket that looks similar to Fred Perry (tennis brand). I've seen it on NBA jackets, gymnastics and possibly others. http://www.usolympicshop.com/catalog...sults&gridID=0

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08-16-2008 , 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ut2010

I believe Spitz did. He just didnt want to go.

I heard his son had a game in Michigan that he wanted to go to? Basketball or soccer or something like that.

Watch your son play.....vs....watch someone break your sick record. Tough call.