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Old 06-15-2017, 03:29 PM   #201
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Re: NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings

jonathan drouin to montreal for sergachev (good D prospect?) and a higher conditional pick (?)
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:29 PM   #202
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Re: NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings

Drouin to habs

Some Russian Dman prospect and a 2nd to Tampa

Afraid this is not a lol bergevin kind of trade
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:32 PM   #203
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i dont see why the lightning would trade drouin after his great last year? whats the catch?
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:36 PM   #204
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They have to take 3.
was reading that they might take a bunch of goalies, if there are good ones unprotected, and they think they have trade value

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May as well take Raanta too
Raanta very likely to be traded before the draft

Flames makes sense, and ... whoever else needs a goalie
the Canucks do, but we're tanking, so meh

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jonathan drouin to montreal for sergachev (good D prospect?) and a higher conditional pick (?)
wow

now Bergy is a lock to dump Galchenyuk for peanuts

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i dont see why the lightning would trade drouin after his great last year? whats the catch?
very likely related to both the expansion draft and their bad cap situation

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If Sergachev plays 40 games for the Bolts next year [regular season + playoffs], there are no picks exchanged. Less than 40, there are.
so the Bolts can basically get a free 2nd rounder by letting Sergachev season in the AHL for most of the year

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Old 06-15-2017, 03:58 PM   #205
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TB why you so dumb?

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very likely related to both the expansion draft and their bad cap situation
So teams need to get rid of their 2nd best forward (Kucherov #1) to deal with cap/expansion. Not buying that.
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Old 06-15-2017, 04:22 PM   #206
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cool trade

now watch bergevin squander that goodwill by trading galchenyuk for CHARACTER and LEADERSHIP
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:18 PM   #207
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jonathan drouin to montreal for sergachev (good D prospect?) and a higher conditional pick (?)
Dude he was your first rounder this past draft, the second D off the board after Juolevi. After him went Bean and McAvoy. Many he thought he could be the best D in the draft.

Certainly the trade is pretty fair. Sergachev is plus size, plus (elite?) skating, great puck mover. Dude shoots hard, plays all situations. I certainly wanted him on the Bruins in the draft.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:21 PM   #208
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Re: NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings

Gudbranson gets a 3.5m deal for one year

Really not sure what the nucks are trying to accomplish with this
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:08 PM   #209
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Re: NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings

It's possible that Drouin's demanding a trade and refusing to report for a minor league assignment was a factor. That was only a year and a half ago, and I'm sure there's still some resentment there.

Sergachev is definitely a legit prospect too. I know that everyone thinks Drouin's about to explode for a 70 pt+ season, but there's no guarantee.
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:32 PM   #210
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Feels like it's pretty straight forward in a lot of spots. The only interesting thing to me is the trades/handshake deals ahead. The draft itself might be a bit predictable. Slim pickings on a lot of teams and then SUPER obvious guys they have to take.


But yeah 1000% more fun than the typical offseason.
Also, it looks like some interesting trades can happen because of it.

Case in point about drouin to the habs.
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:34 PM   #211
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I hope Las Vegas takes Jimmy Howard
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:37 PM   #212
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Not a fan of the lightning side of that trade
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:39 PM   #213
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So you're not a Steve Yzerman fan on that one? NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings NHL 2017 Offseason Thread - Carolina Reigns, Welcome Red Wings
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:55 PM   #214
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Was pretty surprised to see Drouin still had five years to go til UFA status. Seems like a great contract for him with that in mind
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Old 06-15-2017, 07:37 PM   #215
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Also, it looks like some interesting trades can happen because of it.

Case in point about drouin to the habs.
Yeah that is indeed why I pointed out the trades. We'll see several more too. But once that's done, I think you could lock up 22 teams in terms of knowing who is gonna be drafted. Maybe more.
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:53 PM   #216
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:54 PM   #217
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Yeah that is indeed why I pointed out the trades. We'll see several more too. But once that's done, I think you could lock up 22 teams in terms of knowing who is gonna be drafted. Maybe more.
Ya, side deals could allow Vegas to get some good prospects though too.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:51 PM   #218
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So who for sure has already said they aren't gonna protect via 7-3-1? I know the Ducks must be a lock to 8-1

I know a lot of GMs have already come out and said 7-3-1 (Wangz and Flyers most recently)
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:07 PM   #219
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So who for sure has already said they aren't gonna protect via 7-3-1? I know the Ducks must be a lock to 8-1

I know a lot of GMs have already come out and said 7-3-1 (Wangz and Flyers most recently)
Preds too. They gotta protect PK, Josi, ekholm, Ellis. And then Forsberg, Johansen, arvidsson. Will leave Neal or Jarnkrok exposed.
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:42 PM   #220
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For the Jets it depends if Enstrom waives his no-trade.

7-3-1 would leave Myers or Enstrom unprotected, along with Marko Dano.

8-1 makes Perreault or Lowry available.

Kinda sucks either way, but maybe they can ink a long term deal with Trouba conditional on if they lose Myers.

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Old 06-17-2017, 01:13 PM   #221
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Blue Jackets trade the 24th overall pick to the Golden Knights. Most likely to protect a specific player or players, won't be announced till the expansion draft.


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Old 06-17-2017, 01:42 PM   #222
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Lolflames trading for Mike Smith and might even be giving up talent
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:04 PM   #223
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and here i just assumed that they were playing hardball on getting Raanta for like a 3rd instead of a 2nd
will be amazing if they gave up significant assets for 35yo LolSmith & his $5.67m/year contract


based on this decision making & negotiating i guess they're moving to Seattle after all

good riddance
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:19 PM   #224
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bergevin is so dumb lol

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Old 06-17-2017, 02:21 PM   #225
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#Coyotes receive rights to goalie Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey and a third-rounder that becomes a second-rounder if CGY makes playoffs.
are the Rag$ holding firm on a 1st for Raanta? wtf


Canucks probably should try to get in on him now as the number of potential buyers dwindles

but they won't
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