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09-28-2017 , 02:14 PM
Josh Anderson requests a trade from Columbus. Sides are reportedly only $150k apart in demands, but are standing pat based on principal.
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09-28-2017 , 02:33 PM
Anderson, Ryan Murray, and a pick/prospect for Duchene

who says no?
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09-28-2017 , 09:41 PM
Where is the new goddamn thread?
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09-28-2017 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
Anderson, Ryan Murray, and a pick/prospect for Duchene

who says no?
Sakic. But I am not sure how much longer he wants to wait. I think he really killed Duchene's trade value.
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09-29-2017 , 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the feedback people. Seems like a bit of a mixed bag tbh. Maybe they'll offer a free trial or something. Maybe I'll just get it anyway bc f it.
Smoothstreams app on Kodi or Roku the way to go. $12 a month.
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09-29-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
a penalty for a failed offside challenge is so ****ing stupid


why is this league always run by the dummest ppl possible?

related: Quintel or whoever left, replaced by Parros or something
former GOONZ are the only qualified Hockey Ops candidates for some reason
(but but but ... Parros is one of the smrt goonz! #progress)
Any suggestions on who would be able to step in and do the job half as good as the people running things now? So some more rules need work. The overall game has grown at a pace like it never has in it history. This is a dumb rule change I agree, but to throw out the baby with the bath water is pretty silly. I'm guessing an overall Bettman bias here. No other explaination.
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09-29-2017 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushay
I'm guessing an overall Bettman bias here. No other explaination.
well ya he's a miserable, spiteful little douche weasel who needs to go too, but i was specifically talking about Hockey Ops in this case, and he has not much to do with that afaict.

no here i'm referring to the barely-high-school-educated, brain-injured cronies of Gregory's dad. for some reason the best interests of the game are only served if they're viewed through the blurry eyes of men who were voluntarily bare-knuckle punched in the face thousands of times. GOOD HOCKEY MEN. yes, this is the perspective, the only perspective, we need. apparently. the kind of guy who will look at "that little faker" Marc Savard's career being ended by a blindside headshot and deem it a "good hockey play". i mean is it any surprise then that it took until 2017 for them to consider hey maybe we should consider calling those dozens of slashing penalties per game?

hiring the same kind of old school dinosaur over and over and over and over only serves to reinforce the past and hinder positive change. those guys hardly exist in the league anymore anyway, so why do we care what they think* about anything?

* - to the extent that they do, obv

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Any suggestions on who would be able to step in and do the job half as good as the people running things now?
Shanahan seemed to be doing a decent job, but obv running a team is way more fun. that video i linked the other day posed the question why not Paul Kariya? sure, why not? an article i read the other day mentioned Mike Modano as a possibility. maybe. someone like Ray Ferraro would be ideal (for any job in hockey really), assuming he'd rather do that than call games, which is probably not the case.

how about someone who isn't a former goon from that one old boys club?
how about a former skill player so we get that perspective? of course this is hard because most such guys made a lot of money in their careers and have better things to do than squabble with these morans.
how about someone with a college education, rather some dolt who basically quit learning at 13yo because he was like really good at hockey?
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09-30-2017 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
well ya he's a miserable, spiteful little douche weasel who needs to go too,
So you want to get rid of a guy who has already, and ĉontinues to grow the game like no one before him because....?????? he's a non-Canadian and makes the tough decisions more than likely no one has the balls to do? Help me out here a little more will you please.


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Originally Posted by 72off
no here i'm referring to the barely-high-school-educated, brain-injured cronies of Gregory's dad. for some reason the best interests of the game are only served if they're viewed through the blurry eyes of men who were voluntarily bare-knuckle punched in the face thousands of times. GOOD HOCKEY MEN. yes, this is the perspective, the only perspective, we need. apparently. the kind of guy who will look at "that little faker" Marc Savard's career being ended by a blindside headshot and deem it a "good hockey play". i mean is it any surprise then that it took until 2017 for them to consider hey maybe we should consider calling those dozens of slashing penalties per game?

hiring the same kind of old school dinosaur over and over and over and over only serves to reinforce the past and hinder positive change. those guys hardly exist in the league anymore anyway, so why do we care what they think* about anything?
You realize Paros is Princeton educated right? And comes with an endorsement I personally find pretty impressive whether your bias recognizes that or not. "Parros majored in economics at Princeton, and he graduated with a 3.18 GPA and he scored a 1250 on his SATs."

"“George possesses one of the brightest and most innovative young minds in our game,” NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said of the 37-year-old former Anaheim Ducks enforcer. “He has immersed himself in all aspects of Player Safety during the last 12 months and his selection to run this department not only will maintain the stability and consistency in decision-making that have been essential to the Department’s success but also will enable it to continue evolving in step with our game.”

I mean, are you basing your opinion from Ken Cambell from The Hockey News? I certainly hope not.

I encourage you to educate yourself about the man before making a statement based on zero fäcts behind them and nothing but opinion.





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Originally Posted by 72off
Shanahan seemed to be doing a decent job, but obv running a team is way more fun. that video i linked the other day posed the question why not Paul Kariya? sure, why not? an article i read the other day mentioned Mike Modano as a possibility. maybe. someone like Ray Ferraro would be ideal (for any job in hockey really), assuming he'd rather do that than call games, which is probably not the case.

how about someone who isn't a former goon from that one old boys club?
how about a former skill player so we get that perspective? of course this is hard because most such guys made a lot of money in their careers and have better things to do than squabble with these morans.
how about someone with a college education, rather some dolt who basically quit learning at 13yo because he was like really good at hockey?
I hope your ñot serious here with these 3 suggestions. lol
Paul Kariyas damn near a vegetable right now. https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/...ar-paul-kariya

The decisions Modano's made in hîs career people shouldn't trust him to run a lemonaidē stand. And I am a huge fan of Ferraro but please....you may want to consider someone in the future who's been groomed beforehand somewhat. That's just asking fôr problems.

C'mon man, put some more thought into some of this if you're going to criticize people in place now and want to be taken seriously.
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09-30-2017 , 12:19 AM
BTW...big fan of Shanahan as well. But that position would be over his head. In fact, Parros may be more qualified with his Princeton credentials. Running the Leafs when he took over was more common sense and putting the right man in the right job. Took a man with a real vision and a background as the no. 2 man in a league that laid the groundwork with a similar type of success to accomplish what Gary has so far. Vegas another success story showing every other commissioner how you do it.
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09-30-2017 , 01:29 AM
lol
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09-30-2017 , 08:50 AM
Hockey has grown but it has also grown at a much slower rate than pretty much every other sport in North America over the past decade. If Bettman was good he'd have hockey in line with those other sports and growing even faster
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09-30-2017 , 11:12 AM
Vegas hasn't played a game yet, but it's already a success?
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09-30-2017 , 01:03 PM
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09-30-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Hockey has grown but it has also grown at a much slower rate than pretty much every other sport in North America over the past decade. If Bettman was good he'd have hockey in line with those other sports and growing even faster
What in the hell does that even mean?

So what rate has it grown at? What rate has pretty much every other sport grown at in North America?

Please post some links or some facts to back that up or that's all hot air. lol.

That was pretty good though, I'll give you credit.
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09-30-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Vegas hasn't played a game yet, but it's already a success?
15k season tickets sold and most are on a 3-10 year contract and they haven't even played a game yet. You're absolutely right. Surely you're kidding here.

This is already a HUGE success.
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09-30-2017 , 01:28 PM
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If Bettman was good he'd have hockey in line with those other sports and growing even faster
and with fewer than 3 work stoppages
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09-30-2017 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushay
15k season tickets sold and most are on a 3-10 year contract and they haven't even played a game yet. You're absolutely right. Surely you're kidding here.

This is already a HUGE success.
bunch of hotels prepaid for some seats, yawn. let's check back in a couple of years, when we can see how it aligns with other bettman projects.

http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendan...h.php?tmi=7450
http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendan...h.php?tmi=4682
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09-30-2017 , 01:53 PM
Atlanta was getting 13,000 and they couldn't make it work?

They must have been cheap tickets?

It sucks they lost their team twice. They've probably salted the ground there.
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09-30-2017 , 02:14 PM
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and with fewer than 3 work stoppages
Good lord is that seriously the best comeback on your first try?

How long are you guys going to use that as some sort of valid response? It just may be time to move on from the Arizona situation with some of you.

The work stoppages allowed the league to get the saleries in line and help grow the game. Every owner is making money now and I don't believe there's been a single year the cap didn't go up. Or has there been one?

The man's doing a phenomenal job whether you want to admit it or not. Didn't he just win some sort of award as the best commish. in all sports last year? Or has there been more than just one of late?

He's growing the game by leaps and bounds in the states, which had the greatest opportunity for growth.

Time to take those blinders off about his success.
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09-30-2017 , 02:18 PM
If the Commissioner were strong he'd have moved Ari to the greater Toronto area already. It's the biggest untapped market and best area to put a team that will actually make money.

The stratification of profit going to big city teams will have to be addressed at some point. They can only squeeze the players so far.
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09-30-2017 , 02:25 PM
Never thought we'd get a Bettman stan in here. Probably best not to argue with a guy who can't spell "salary." Or argue with a guy who thought there was an award for "best commissioner in all sports."

Great job Bettman, only you could have "grown" TV revenue to only $130 million less than Ligue 1, the 5th best and 5th most watched soccer league in Europe!
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09-30-2017 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
bunch of hotels prepaid for some seats, yawn. let's check back in a couple of years, when we can see how it aligns with other bettman projects.

http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendan...h.php?tmi=7450
http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendan...h.php?tmi=4682
That bs. It's close to 100% fan based of those sales were by the community. And even if it wasn't, what difference would that make??? Lol

A sale is a sale. It money in the owners, leagues and players pockets at the end of the day. Bottom line.
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09-30-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushay
I don't believe there's been a single year the cap didn't go up. Or has there been one?
why are you asking us? thought you were the xpert here

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and a bunch of years the cap would have stayed flat / gone down if not for the escalators being used in about every season
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09-30-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Never thought we'd get a Bettman stan in here. Probably best not to argue with a guy who can't spell "salary." Or argue with a guy who thought there was an award for "best commissioner in all sports."

Great job Bettman, only you could have "grown" TV revenue to only $130 million less than Ligue 1, the 5th best and 5th most watched soccer league in Europe!
Surrender noted with than lame reply.
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09-30-2017 , 02:36 PM
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why are you asking us? thought you were the xpert here

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and a bunch of years the cap would have stayed flat / gone down if not for the escalators being used in about every season
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Wtf is your point?
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