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08-15-2017 , 12:44 PM
and the rest of that is just sad rationalizations

like you really wanna sit here puking the Bumz kool-aid arguing that they're good with these young stars?

whatever man, go ahead
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08-15-2017 , 02:19 PM
How are you not taking 3 to 1 here? You seem quite sure they'll ditch this young man
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08-15-2017 , 02:24 PM
because i want to believe that they've learned from their mistakes and will not do something so incredibly stupid yet again
(even though they might)


though if they really want to play hardball here, i'd see about getting a 1-year ~$10M offer from the KHL and play in the Olympics next year, if i were him
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08-15-2017 , 03:18 PM
KHL ain't offering anything. They're not gonna let a rival play Olympic hockey

Btw... If this whole Jagr not signing with anyone silliness continues... How about him returning to Kladno and giving it one more go in South Korea? Would give me at least a reason to watch
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08-15-2017 , 03:36 PM
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lol

Bumz stay the Bumz
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because i want to believe that they've learned from their mistakes and will not do something so incredibly stupid yet again
(even though they might)


though if they really want to play hardball here, i'd see about getting a 1-year ~$10M offer from the KHL and play in the Olympics next year, if i were him
Uh-huh. 4 to 1. Surely you have to accept here soon.
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08-15-2017 , 08:11 PM
i don't want to bet, but it's probably more like 15-1


you seem oddly touchy about someone making a ****ing joke about your team

your offseason too long or something?
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08-16-2017 , 07:37 AM
I'm not remotely touchy. I like to win bets, was hoping I could win one here. You correctly did not take the bad line.
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08-16-2017 , 10:32 AM
Dwight King to the Khl.
Hope he likes it and got the money up front. Don't see that league being a fit for his style.
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08-16-2017 , 02:11 PM
Draisaitl signed for 8x8.5M.

The deal in and of itself is a probable overpay but it's not a franchise destroyer. The franchise destroyer contracts are Lucic and Russell eating 10M of cap space for the next 3 years.

Of course, this deal also means Nugent-Hopkins is dead man walking in Edmonton due to cap issues.
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08-16-2017 , 02:41 PM
Just when you think you got rid of him and he can't do any more harm to the Bruins does Chiapet go ahead and give Draisaitl 8.5m x 8. Can't wait till the Pastrnak camp points at Draisaitl and say he wants the same.

FU Chiarelli is the worst.
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08-16-2017 , 02:54 PM
Lol who gives a ****, pay the man his money

I'm totally fine with giving that contract to Pasta. Buys 5 (?) UFA years I think, and the good ones too.
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08-16-2017 , 03:14 PM
Ok seems it only buys 3 UFA years, got confused with the MLB system there. Still though, it's always astounding how nitty teams get to save a million bucks on their young stars while overpaying literally every old role player.
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08-16-2017 , 09:01 PM
think Pastrnak should come in lower than that, off the top of my head, something like $56M/8

any rumours about the specifics of that negotiation?


also i have no idea why Bo Horvat hasn't signed yet
seems like a pretty simple case of giving him $5-5.5M/year on a long-term deal, less on a bridge
not sure why they're taking all summer to get it done
(in b4 Lol Benning!)
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08-17-2017 , 10:45 AM
I can't believe that this is Cullens 20th season. Man that makes you feel old right there.
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08-17-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
think Pastrnak should come in lower than that, off the top of my head, something like $56M/8

any rumours about the specifics of that negotiation?
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/b...pastrnak_talks

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The Boston Bruins have reportedly offered David Pastrnak a six-year, $36 million contract, per the Boston Herald.
seems stupidly low of an offer for August


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In the NHL, it’s all about “comparables” in the restricted free agent market. The comparable NHL pact on which the B’s based their offer is that of Nashville Predators star Filip Forsberg, who is entering the second season of a five-year deal paying $6 million per season.

It’s important to note Forsberg’s signing last summer was in the wake of two strong seasons: 26 goals, 37 assists in 2014-15 and 33 goals and 31 assists in ’15-16.

Pastrnak had a breakout campaign last season, when he was second on the B’s with 34 goals and 36 assists.

He has shown glimpses of excellence in his first three NHL seasons but is arguing his salary case based on one.

Forsberg seems like a more deserving player for that contract than Pastrnak, though the B’s apparently are willing to match it.
so Pastrnak had a better season at a younger age but barely deserves the same amount of money a year later? got it
(and he was actually good in his first 2 seasons as well, he just didn't play 82 games, and the team submarined him by only playing him 14mpg)

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who can blame the B’s brass if it is reluctant to pay Pastrnak more than Brad Marchand
everyone?

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How would the All-Star winger feel if before he even cashes his first paycheck on this deal, he’s passed on the salary scale by a kid with one good season?
i doubt he cares, but also who gives a **** how he feels

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Neither can you blame Pastrnak for aiming high. It’s believed he’s been waiting for the Draisaitl price tag — which seems outrageously high.
no, it's totally fine

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While the B’s are understandably sensitive about how they treat young stars, would it really make sense for them to re-write their salary structure?
the Bumz have a salary structure?

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Don’t forget, they’re only required under the CBA to offer Pastrnak 105 percent of last year’s contract — which would be about $1.2 million.
hahahahahahahahaha

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The days when GMs like Harry Sinden used their CBA leverage in that frugal manner — leading almost annually to training camp no-shows by key restricted free agents — are long gone. Now teams want happy players, and they believe locking up young stars to long-term deals will prove economical.
except for the Bumz, who still pretend like it's 1955

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It’s a new reality that GMs are willing to be generous and pay far more in post-entry level pacts than they have to.
if they're being dragged into this "new reality" kicking & screaming then it isn't generosity bruh

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The trend has gone too far, contributing to the salary cap woes teams have experienced in recent years.
hahahahahahahahaha

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Indeed, the message of the first decade of the salary cap era is that NHL front offices have to save money on their payroll wherever they can. Even cutting $100,000-$200,000 off several multi-year contracts might give a team the cap room to hang on to a useful player.
yes, Boston Bruins: masters of the salary cap

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The big German center had a very big season, with 28 goals and 48 assists, plus six goals and 10 assists in 13 playoff games. But his two previous NHL seasons were nothing special, with a total of 21 goals and 39 assists 104 games.
u r dum

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Young players used to have to prove how good they were for several years to jump to the top of the payroll. Now they get paid based just on what teams hope they’re going to be.
ya i really HOPE that Draisaitl is a top10 scorer & Pastrnak top20 like they were last season

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Critics shouldn’t jump on B’s general manager Don Sweeney for trying, just a little bit, to pay a fair wage and not wildly overpay.
hahahahahahahahaha


conclusion:
Looooooool Bumz
Lolololol Boston media
Lol Boston in general
Lol Chowdah
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08-17-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Travis Zajac out 4-6 months
everything coming up Devils!
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08-18-2017 , 07:02 AM
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everything coming up Devils!
this will be a great tank season and next year the get dahlin and then they have a "core"
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08-18-2017 , 01:16 PM
career per 82gp @ 20mpg:

Barkov (21yo): 26g/61pts, 5yrs @ $5.9M
Draisaitl (21yo): 25g/69pts, 8yrs @ $8.5M
Eichel (20yo): 28g/67pts, ???
Forsberg (23yo): 31g/66pts, 5yrs @ $6M
Galchenyuk (23yo): 28g/65pts, 3yrs @ $4.9M
MacKinnon (21yo): 22g/61pts, 6yrs @ $6.3M
Pastrnak (21yo): 36g/74pts, ???


will be funny if while the Bumz are trying to sign Pastrnak at $6.1M/year, Buffalo locks up Eichel
he's probably gonna get at least $8M/year, and quite possibly something above Leon

then what's their play? just keep hammering on him, let this play out into the season and hope he breaks?
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08-19-2017 , 07:24 AM
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everything coming up Devils!
This one actually shouldn't be so bad if it actually gets them to play Zacha more. Zajac should be a bottom 6 forward at this stage of his career.
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08-19-2017 , 04:43 PM
Don Cherry signing Take Me Out To the Ballgame at the Jays Cubs game
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08-24-2017 , 06:48 AM
Slide to 30th pick, first KHL game:

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08-24-2017 , 11:49 AM
I was about to make a bad goalie joke, then saw it was Jonas Enroth who put up a .922, 2.17, 2 so in 16 games for the Kings in 15-16.
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08-24-2017 , 12:41 PM
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08-24-2017 , 06:37 PM
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I was about to make a bad goalie joke, then saw it was Jonas Enroth who put up a .922, 2.17, 2 so in 16 games for the Kings in 15-16.
Tough assignments too, Klinkhammer-sighting!
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08-24-2017 , 09:57 PM
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