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06-18-2017 , 10:27 AM
Wings protecting Howard is the best
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06-18-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
in a way i'm happy for HUDON if vegas picks him cause he'll be leaving the dumbest franchise in pro sports
Rata rattled. What bugs you?

Drouin trade good imo.
Beaulieu trade doesn't look good on paper but would've got nothing for him when Vegas took him.

Here we lose Hudon, DLR or Davidson. Possible there's a deal in place for Vegas to take Pleks or Emelin which would be ideal.
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06-18-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Wings protecting Howard is the best

Should they protect Mrazek instead? You have to protect a goalie.
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06-18-2017 , 01:20 PM
So who is the best player unprotected out there?

Does it even make sense to take an UFA like Jagr? I mean he could be a nice crowd magnet for the start but you cant be certain he signs with you.
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06-18-2017 , 01:42 PM
Vegas baby!

1) Bring on the Flower Power.

2) Carrie Underwood gonna take a residence at Caesars obviously.

3) TVR gonna be a top pair D-man??
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06-18-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Habsfan09
So who is the best player unprotected out there?
jonathan marchessault maybe

30 goals last year, 26 years old
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06-18-2017 , 02:10 PM
Can Vegas select an unprotected player, then trade them back to the original team?
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06-18-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Wings protecting Howard is the best
No
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06-18-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT
Should they protect Mrazek instead? You have to protect a goalie.
Absolutely.

No brainer
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06-18-2017 , 02:17 PM
So this is a televised event with Bettman going thru the teams in reverse order of finish and announcing who is happening here and staying here?
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06-18-2017 , 03:16 PM
I like this: http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/p...s/201706160192
War on Ice guy to Pens front office.
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06-18-2017 , 03:17 PM
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Anaheim Ducks

Andrew Cogliano (F)
Ryan Getzlaf (F) (NMC)
Ryan Kesler (F) (NMC)
Corey Perry (F) (NMC)
Rickard Rakell (F)
Jakob Silfverberg (F)
Antoine Vermette (F)
Kevin Bieksa (D) (NMC)
Cam Fowler (D)
Hampus Lindholm (D)
John Gibson (G)

Arizona Coyotes

Nick Cousins (F)
Anthony Duclair (F)
Jordan Martinook (F)
Tobias Rieder (F)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (D)
Alex Goligoski (D) (NMC)
Connor Murphy (D)
Luke Schenn (D)
Chad Johnson (G)

Boston Bruins

David Backes (F) (NMC)
Patrice Bergeron (F) (NMC)
David Krejci (F) (NMC)
Brad Marchand (F)
Riley Nash (F)
David Pastrnak (F)
Ryan Spooner (F)
Zdeno Chara (D) (NMC)
Torey Krug (D)
Kevan Miller (D)
Tuukka Rask (G)

Buffalo Sabres

Tyler Ennis (F)
Marcus Foligno (F)
Zemgus Girgensons (F)
Evander Kane (F)
Johan Larsson (F)
Ryan O'Reilly (F)
Kyle Okposo (F) (NMC)
Nathan Beaulieu (D)
Jake McCabe (D)
Rasmus Ristolainen (D)
Robin Lehner (G)

Calgary Flames

Mikael Backlund (F)
Sam Bennett (F)
Micheal Ferland (F)
Michael Frolik (F)
Johnny Gaudreau (F)
Curtis Lazar (F)
Sean Monahan (F)
T.J. Brodie (D)
Mark Giordano (D)
Dougie Hamilton (D)
Mike Smith (G)

Carolina Hurricanes

Phillip Di Giuseppe (F)
Elias Lindholm (F)
Brock McGinn (F)
Victor Rask (F)
Jeff Skinner (F)
Jordan Staal (F) (NMC)
Teuvo Teravainen (F)
Trevor Carrick (D)
Justin Faulk (D)
Ryan Murphy (D)
Scott Darling (G)

Chicago Blackhawks

Artem Anisimov (F) (NMC)
Ryan Hartman (F)
Marian Hossa (F) (NMC)
Tomas Jurco (F)
Patrick Kane (F) (NMC)
RIchard Panik (F)
Jonathan Toews (F) (NMC)
Niklas Hjalmarsson (D) (NMC)
Duncan Keith (D) (NMC)
Brent Seabrook (D) (NMC)
Corey Crawford (G) (NMC)

Colorado Avalanche

Sven Andrighetto (F)
Blake Comeau (F)
Matt Duchene (F)
Rocco Grimaldi (F)
Gabriel Landeskog (F)
Nathan MacKinnon (F)
Matt Nieto (F)
Tyson Barrie (D)
Erik Johnson (D) (NMC)
Nikita Zadorov (D)
Semyon Varlamov (G)

Columbus Blue Jackets

Cam Atkinson (F)
Brandon Dubinsky (F) (NMC)
Nick Foligno (F) (NMC)
Scott Hartnell (F) (NMC)
Boone Jenner (F)
Brandon Saad (F)
Alexander Wennberg (F)
Seth Jones (D)
Ryan Murray (D)
David Savard (D)
Sergei Bobrovsky (G) (NMC)

Dallas Stars

Jamie Benn (F) (NMC)
Radek Faksa (F)
Valeri Nichushkin (F)
Brett Ritchie (F)
Antoine Roussel (F)
Tyler Seguin (F)
Jason Spezza (F) (NMC)
Stephen Johns (D)
John Klingberg (D)
Esa Lindell (D)
Ben Bishop (G) (NMC)

Detroit Red Wings

Justin Abdelkader (F)
Andreas Athanasiou (F)
Anthony Mantha (F)
Frans Nielsen (F) (NMC)
Gustav Nyquist (F)
Tomas Tatar (F)
Henrik Zetterberg (F)
Danny DeKeyser (D)
Mike Green (D)
Nick Jensen (D)
Jimmy Howard (G)

Edmonton Oilers

Leon Draisaitl (F)
Jordan Eberle (F)
Zack Kassian (F)
Mark Letestu (F)
Milan Lucic (F) (NMC)
Patrick Maroon (F)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (F)
Oscar Klefbom (D)
Adam Larsson (D)
Andrej Sekera (D) (NMC)
Cam Talbot (G) (NMC)

Florida Panthers

Aleksander Barkov (F)
Nick Bjugstad (F)
Jonathan Huberdeau (F)
Vincent Trocheck (F)
Aaron Ekblad (D)
Alex Petrovic (D)
Mark Pysyk (D)
Keith Yandle (D) (NMC)
James Reimer (G)

Los Angeles Kings

Jeff Carter (F)
Anze Kopitar (F) (NMC)
Tanner Pearson (F)
Tyler Toffoli (F)
Drew Doughty (D)
Derek Forbort (D)
Alec Martinez (D)
Jake Muzzin (D)
Jonathan Quick (G)

Minnesota Wild

Charlie Coyle (F)
Mikael Granlund (F)
Mikko Koivu (F) (NMC)
Nino Niederreiter (F)
Zach Parise (F) (NMC)
Jason Pominville (F) (NMC)
Jason Zucker (F)
Jonas Brodin (D)
Jared Spurgeon (D)
Ryan Suter (D) (NMC)
Devan Dubnyk (G)

Montreal Canadiens

Paul Byron (F)
Phillip Danault (F)
Jonathan Drouin (F)
Alex Galchenyuk (F)
Brendan Gallagher (F)
Max Pacioretty (F)
Andrew Shaw (F)
Jordie Benn (D)
Jeff Petry (D) (NMC)
Shea Weber (D)
Carey Price (G) (NMC)

Nashville Predators

Viktor Arvidsson (F)
Filip Forsberg (F)
Calle Jarnkrok (F)
Ryan Johansen (F)
Mattias Ekholm (D)
Ryan Ellis (D)
Roman Josi (D)
P.K. Subban (D)
Pekka Rinne (G) (NMC)

New Jersey Devils

Taylor Hall (F)
Adam Henrique (F)
Kyle Palmieri (F)
Travis Zajac (F)
Andy Greene (D)
John Moore (D)
Mirco Mueller (D)
Damon Severson (D)
Cory Schneider (G)

New York Islanders

Andrew Ladd (F) (NMC)
Anders Lee (F)
John Tavares (F) (NMC)
Johnny Boychuk (D) (NMC)
Travis Hamonic (D)
Nick Leddy (D)
Adam Pelech (D)
Ryan Pulock (D)
Thomas Greiss (G)

New York Rangers

Kevin Hayes (F)
Chris Kreider (F)
J.T. Miller (F)
Rick Nash (F) (NMC)
Derek Stepan (F)
Mika Zibanejad (F)
Mats Zuccarello (F)
Nick Holden (D)
Ryan McDonagh (D)
Marc Staal (D) (NMC)
Henrik Lundqvist (G) (NMC)

Ottawa Senators

Derick Brassard (F)
Ryan Dzingel (F)
Mike Hoffman (F)
Jean-Gabriel Pageau (F)
Zack Smith (F)
Mark Stone (F)
Kyle Turris (F)
Cody Ceci (D)
Erik Karlsson (D)
Dion Phaneuf (D) (NMC)
Craig Anderson (G)

Philadelphia Flyers

Sean Couturier (F)
Valtteri Filppula (F) (NMC)
Claude Giroux (F) (NMC)
Scott Laughton (F)
Brayden Schenn (F)
Wayne Simmonds (F)
Jakub Voracek (F)
Shayne Gostisbehere (D)
Radko Gudas (D)
Brandon Manning (D)
Anthony Stolarz (G)

Pittsburgh Penguins

Sidney Crosby (F) (NMC)
Patric Hornqvist (F)
Phil Kessel (F) (NMC)
Evgeni Malkin (F) (NMC)
Brian Dumoulin (D)
Kris Letang (D) (NMC)
Olli Maatta (D)
Justin Schultz (D)
Matt Murray (G)

San Jose Sharks

Ryan Carpenter (F)
Logan Couture (F)
Jannik Hansen (F)
Tomas Hertl (F)
Melker Karlsson (F)
Joe Pavelski (F)
Chris Tierney (F)
Justin Braun (D)
Brent Burns (D)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic (D)
Martin Jones (G)

St. Louis Blues

Patrik Berglund (F)
Ryan Reaves (F)
Jaden Schwartz (F)
Vladimir Sobotka (F)
Paul Stastny (F)
Alex Steen (F)
Vladimir Tarasenko (F)
Jay Bouwmeester (D)
Joel Edmundson (D)
Alex Pietrangelo (D)
Jake Allen (G)

Tampa Bay Lightning

Ryan Callahan (F) (NMC)
Tyler Johnson (F)
Alex Killorn (F)
Nikita Kucherov (F)
Vladislav Namestnikov (F)
Ondrej Palat (F)
Steven Stamkos (F) (NMC)
Braydon Coburn (D)
Victor Hedman (D) (NMC)
Anton Stralman (D)
Andrei Vasilevskiy (G)

Toronto Maple Leafs

Tyler Bozak (F)
Connor Brown (F)
Nazem Kadri (F)
Leo Komarov (F)
Josh Leivo (F)
Matt Martin (F)
James van Riemsdyk (F)
Connor Carrick (D)
Jake Gardiner (D)
Morgan Rielly (D)
Frederik Andersen (G)

Vancouver Canucks

Sven Baertschi (F)
Loui Eriksson (F) (NMC)
Markus Granlund (F)
Bo Horvat (F)
Daniel Sedin (F) (NMC)
Henrik Sedin (F) (NMC)
Brandon Sutter (F)
Alex Edler (D)
Erik Gudbranson (D)
Chris Tanev (D)
Jacob Markstrom (G)

Washington Capitals

Nicklas Backstrom (F)
Andre Burakovsky (F)
Lars Eller (F)
Marcus Johansson (F)
Evgeny Kuznetsov (F)
Alex Ovechkin (F)
Tom Wilson (F)
John Carlson (D)
Matt Niskanen (D)
Dmitry Orlov (D)
Braden Holtby (G)

Winnipeg Jets

Joel Armia (F)
Andrew Copp (F)
Bryan Little (F)
Adam Lowry (F)
Mathieu Perreault (F)
Mark Scheifele (F)
Blake Wheeler (F)
Dustin Byfuglien (D) (NMC)
Tyler Myers (D)
Jacob Trouba (D)
Connor Hellebuyck (G)
lol rangers no raanta kys
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06-18-2017 , 03:55 PM
Wow so after that playoff Ottawa still leaves Ryan out there (guess that's not so surprising but he did look way better). I guess it's gonna be Ryan or Methot there.

First glance looks like Vegas will have nice G, D, reliable PK. Forwards are gonna be where they'll need to draft help. But man head and shoulders better than expansion teams of years past.
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06-18-2017 , 04:21 PM
Ken Holland protecting Howard over Mrazek is the dumbest thing he's ever done and that is saying a lot
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06-18-2017 , 04:31 PM
Ya Vegas should have a great d core.

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06-18-2017 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by thedeezy
Ken Holland protecting Howard over Mrazek is the dumbest thing he's ever done and that is saying a lot
I want to say youre incorrect but i really cant wrap my head around this.

Mrazek is the better goalie, younger and has a goodcontract
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06-18-2017 , 04:32 PM
So guys like McDavid and Matthews dont need to be protected?
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06-18-2017 , 04:33 PM
Yes, players on ELCs are off-limits for Vegas
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06-18-2017 , 04:43 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's possible that deals are already in place to protect players that haven't been announced yet
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06-18-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's possible that deals are already in place to protect players that haven't been announced yet
Yeah, the deals with VEGAS are secret deals. The ones between other teams had to already be announced. But anyone can have a deal in place with Vegas to provide something in order to get Vegas to not select a player for example.

It does in fact appear that most GM's preferred to make the deal with Vegas rather than make it with another team. Makes sense if you start with the assumption that Vegas will be the weakest team. If you've got to give up something, give it up to them.
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06-18-2017 , 07:19 PM
so the collective face of the hockey world will melt if vegas doesnt take fleury it seems.

I really want to see what anaheim and the islanders gave up in order to protect some of their guus
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06-18-2017 , 07:41 PM
They are taking 3 goalies. Who would you take.

The list of available goalies:

This is difficult to do without a spreadsheet.

Last edited by Hammerhands; 06-18-2017 at 07:53 PM.
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06-18-2017 , 07:46 PM
I would probably take fleury.

Would definitely take mrazek
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06-18-2017 , 08:09 PM
I'd take Fleury, Mrazek and Raanta and then flip one of those guys.
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