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03-09-2017 , 10:39 PM
WC2s get Caps/Blackhawks/Wild, so ... have fun!


Everlastrr cheering for the Canucks tonight? hope so #agony

Last edited by 72off; 03-09-2017 at 10:39 PM. Reason: i'm sure not lol
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03-09-2017 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
WC2s get Caps/Blackhawks/Wild, so ... have fun!


Everlastrr cheering for the Canucks tonight? hope so #agony
Yeah I'm pretty green at cheering for other teams this late in the season.
But here we are... GOCANUCKSGO




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03-09-2017 , 11:41 PM
feels like montoya isnt as good as price
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03-10-2017 , 12:08 AM
the Islanders seem p bad
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03-10-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Princess Elsa
If Sens make the playoffs, they will be easily the worst team to make them.

They are bad in every advanced stats category and their puck luck is is through the roof. Also, Anderson is playing way above is head this season; this won't last since he's a forever average goalie.

If we look at who's out right now, it seems like Tampa will easily be the best team not to make the playoffs.
No offense but everything you said is stupid. Here are some advanced stats for you to think about. Sens have the same amount of wins as the Habs with two games in hand.

You also don't seem to know that Condon filled in for Anderson for a large chunk of the season. Unlike your team, my team doesn't turn into hot garbage when their Number 1 goalie isn't available.
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03-10-2017 , 02:35 AM
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Here are some advanced stats for you to think about. Sens have the same amount of wins as the Habs with two games in hand.
Lol, what don't you get? Sens are sunrunning atm. Their corsi and possession numbers are atrocious and their shooting % is way above what it should be...

You seem to be results oriented and not looking at the actual relevant numbers that make an NHL team "good".

I'm not saying habs are better than the Sens; I'm saying every team in the playoffs, and some out of the picture are better than Ottawa.

I am aware that Condon did fill out for Anderson but that ain't the pt. Anderson goaling for .931 save percentage is just stupid and not representative of what it should be.

Still wonder why we didn't keep Condon... he's one of the better 2nd goalies in the league.

Anyways, enjoy the heater while it's still on.

Btw, I am well aware that without Price, Habs never get into the playoffs. I'm not biased because I'm a Canadians fan; I know very well that our lineup minus #31 stinks and would be bottom third in the league.
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03-10-2017 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Princess Elsa
Lol, what don't you get? Sens are sunrunning atm. Their corsi and possession numbers are atrocious and their shooting % is way above what it should be...

You seem to be results oriented and not looking at the actual relevant numbers that make an NHL team "good".

I'm not saying habs are better than the Sens; I'm saying every team in the playoffs, and some out of the picture are better than Ottawa.

I am aware that Condon did fill out for Anderson but that ain't the pt. Anderson goaling for .931 save percentage is just stupid and not representative of what it should be.

Still wonder why we didn't keep Condon... he's one of the better 2nd goalies in the league.

Anyways, enjoy the heater while it's still on.

Btw, I am well aware that without Price, Habs never get into the playoffs. I'm not biased because I'm a Canadians fan; I know very well that our lineup minus #31 stinks and would be bottom third in the league.
The only stats that really matter is the number of goals at the end of the game. Ek is finally playing like a Norris contender and the teams MVP, meanwhile they have great players like Stone Hoffman, and Turris and lots of secondary scoring. They also have one of best D corps in the league and have turned winning one goal games as their bread and butter.

They also have two goalies they can win with. So if your stats are saying this is a poor team then your stats are wrong.
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03-10-2017 , 03:26 AM
Send It In Jerome!
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03-10-2017 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
The only stats that really matter is the number of goals at the end of the game. Ek is finally playing like a Norris contender and the teams MVP, meanwhile they have great players like Stone Hoffman, and Turris and lots of secondary scoring. They also have one of best D corps in the league and have turned winning one goal games as their bread and butter.

They also have two goalies they can win with. So if your stats are saying this is a poor team then your stats are wrong.
There was another team that thought this was a repeatable skill a few years ago, and now they're sitting 19-44-3
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03-10-2017 , 04:04 AM
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They also have one of best D corps in the league.
Not even close, you have to be trippin...

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They also have two goalies they can win with. So if your stats are saying this is a poor team then your stats are wrong
No team has ever won w a 2 goalie system; it just doesn't work. Who cares if you have a better back up than your opponent in the playoffs, it's not relevant. If you're N1 goalie gets injured early in the series, it's gg.

Only case that ever worked out was when Cam Ward took Gerber's place in the 2006 playoffs.

And the thing about my stats being "inaccurate" because your team is winning atm is just the most biased comment you could make.

And lol, these aren't my stats; those are public and everyone who follows the NHL are aware that the Senators are a bad team in every advanced category.
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03-10-2017 , 07:43 AM
Some people are advanced stat deniers
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03-10-2017 , 07:54 AM
I disagree with a two goalie system being a big problem. Yeah everyone would rather have Carey Price, but we've seen enough teams win with mediocre goalies recently. You need your goalie to get hot and having two bullets for that to happen seems like a positive

(Not that I have any idea wether the Sens Gs are any good, don't @ me)
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03-10-2017 , 10:10 AM
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Damn you are gristled.

Burakovsky is still hurt, so lineups are a bit of a challenge. Probably shouldn't be that difficult of a decision but whatcha gonna do, coaches lose sleep over matchups, believe me. Caps also have a need to get ice time for connoly/vrana.

Generally speaking Beagle/Winnie/Wilson get more ice time due to PK's, which is fine.
It's been during ES almost every game too. After getting our asses beat by the Sharks I think it's time to put Kuzy on the top line and Backstrom with 14 and 90. When burakovsky comes back I'd like to see him back with 19 and 90, especially if Vrana has shown he can dominate possession with Eller.
8-92-77
65-19-90
14-20-13
10-83-26

Dumpster- 43
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03-10-2017 , 03:16 PM
3 best players in the league face off in Edmonton tonight

look for Malkin to dominate
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03-10-2017 , 04:56 PM
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3 best players in the league face off in Edmonton tonight

look for Malkin to dominate
Marchand get traded?

Spoiler:
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03-10-2017 , 06:27 PM
re: Sens

they're a perfectly ordinary team in the worst division in the league. the best 4 teams in the Conference are all in the Metro. was gonna say it'd be funny if the Pens/BJs/Rag$ all start tanking to get into the other side of the bracket, but i think the NYR will probably get there. wouldn't be at all surprised to see them meet the Caps/Pens in the ECF.
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03-10-2017 , 07:04 PM
In the off season thread I said the Sens are going to surprise some people and I was right. I think they are going to have a good run in the playoffs.

There is no point in arguing how good they are, we will all find out very soon~!
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03-10-2017 , 07:36 PM
12th in GF%
16th in SF%
22nd in FF%
23rd in CF%
11th in Sh%
16th in Sv%
10th in PDO
20th in 5v4 GF/60
13th least 5v4 TOI
13th in 4v5 GA/60
12th most 4v5 TOI

the only mild surprise wrt the Sens is how bad the division is

i wouldn't be shocked if they won a round or two
but i'd probably take the Bumz/Rag$ vs them
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03-10-2017 , 08:16 PM
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would be nice to land a top-2 pick this year so we can add Patrick or Hischier to the group, because i think they'll pretty quickly get back to that ~8th worst mediocrity level where elite prospects fear to tread (or at least draft by the Canucks)

drafting in the 5th-8th range this year would be pretty awful, if only because Benning might be tempted to take Michael Rasmussen, who as a 6'5" local product C is the kind he likes, but looks like he might be a poor choice that high in the draft


trollolololol

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3 best players in the league face off in Edmonton tonight
meanwhile Sportsnet is showing 'Hawks/'Wings for some unknown reason...
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03-10-2017 , 08:26 PM
03-10-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
There was another team that thought this was a repeatable skill a few years ago, and now they're sitting 19-44-3


Did you have to go there?
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03-11-2017 , 02:27 PM
That shoulda been a Flyers goal. Lol refs, phew
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03-11-2017 , 04:47 PM
My boy Drewski !!! oh yeah. (no 3pt game woot woot)
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03-11-2017 , 04:59 PM
FINDING WAYS TO WIN
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03-11-2017 , 07:53 PM
predicting an ELITE performance from the Sens tonight

meanwhile, Hrudey & Kypreos blowing Karlsson's all-around game this season because he's blocking lots of shots apparently *facepalm*

also because he's playing more on the PK
(hmm, maybe there's a relationship between those two things...)

same kind of morans who have been killing him his whole career and saying he shouldn't ever win the Norris


This year:

1.66 pts/60
Team 2.60 GF/60
49.7 CF% (+2.1% rel)
51.1 FF% (+3.2% rel)
51.5 SF% (+1.3% rel)
54.7 GF% (+2.6% rel)
OppGF 49.8% (4th among D)

Last year:

1.54 pts/60
Team 2.31 GF/60
50.4 CF% (+5.5% rel)
49.5 FF% (+4.5% rel)
48.9 SF% (+4.5% rel)
48.1 GF% (-3.7% rel)
OppGF 51.2% (3rd among D)

some combination of Karlsson being better last year / the team being not trash this year

but something something NARRATIVES FTMFW as usual
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