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Old Today, 01:40 AM   #1601
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Kaepernick gave up any chance at playing again once he sued the NFL.
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Old Today, 01:46 AM   #1602
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Old Today, 02:04 AM   #1604
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So with Condi coaching the Browns I'm guessing consensus would put her at #30, ahead of Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden.
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Old Today, 02:53 AM   #1605
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So with Condi coaching the Browns I'm guessing consensus would put her at #30, ahead of Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden.
she's probably ahead of Garrett too
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It's Jon Gruden talking about Nathan Peterman before the draft.
Makes sense that nothing in the profile describes on-field performance

Reich went for it on 4th and 4 from his own 43 with 27 seconds left in overtime. No, a punt doesn't guarantee a tie, but I think it's the clear right move given where the ball is on the field and thus the chances of losing if you fail to convert + how low the probability of you scoring is even if you do.

And Le'Veon Bell is not going to get blackballed for sitting out a year; we can look for enough players that have similarly held out in the past and still been signed eventually to see that.

Saints have won their last two games by a total of 99-21.
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Old Today, 03:39 AM   #1607
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A player sat out a whole year before?

edit--after some googling

I guess Eric Dickerson is the closest comp for a handful of games but that was in an era where stud RB meant a lot, now it's just that's nice and Bell isn't much better than everyone else in the league. Hell he's not better than Conner as a runner on Pit. (receiver sure, runner nope according to the STATS)

Chancellor got owned more than anything on his.

The others were draft picks, your Bo Jackson (this is a pretty epic lol bucs story on it's own), Kelly Stouffer (eventually traded)

Dallas caved for Emmitt after a couple games but only b/c they lost and were in the super bowl window.

idk, there's just so many teams that won't be interested whatsoever

Generally holdouts have a statistical decline. I think it's more or less simply running backs don't produce that ridic level very often ever again--that list who did in recent memory is basically adrian peterson.
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap20...stical-decline

maybe it's just me making the typical extrapolating mindset error as I wouldn't touch Bell's demands with a ten foot pole even if I needed a RB as a NFL team.

Jarmarcus held out but that's because he didn't want to play football.

Sean Gilbert in 1997 is the closest similar situation--the redskins traded the 6th overall pick for him (rams took lawrence phillips with this lol)--franchised him and he promptly sat out a year, got franchised again, NFLPA ruled they couldn't do that, Carolina signed him and had to fork over two first round picks. (one of which was later traded for the entire draft + more for ricky williams) Gilbert performed solid but he was never the dominant force again.

I didn't know that entire draft for williams saga had dominos to it, washington had to majorly **** up a trade to get that offer in the first place. Later they moved the second pick with their own for the 3rd overall in that 00 draft they also had the 2nd overall. And became a oh right they did nothing with all of that.

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Old Today, 05:04 AM   #1608
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Wasn’t there a stud O Lineman who sat out a season? Want to say Walter Jones but too lazy to google
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Walter Jones held out every training camp for a while, but I don't think he ever missed a game. It wasn't even really about a contract, he just didn't want to go to Cheney.
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So with Condi coaching the Browns I'm guessing consensus would put her at #30, ahead of Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden.
shes got a shot at #1 tbh, i mean even belichick makes straight retard decisions on the regular so a completely new approach might do the trick

much more likely ofc is that she's more retrograde than even fat mike and the browns will be running the ball, punting on 4th and inches and losing for the forseeable
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