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10-17-2017 , 07:11 PM

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So close.

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Edit nvm missed we were speaking of RBs only

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10-17-2017 , 09:09 PM

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Ezekiel Elliott gets another temporary restraining order. Eligible to play again, until the next court hearing.

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10-17-2017 , 09:10 PM

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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10-17-2017 , 09:22 PM

#804

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BTW, the GB-NO line moved from GB -6.5 to NO -3.5 after Rodgers was hurt, and since then it's moved to NO -6. So "10-14 points" as an estimate for Rodgers' value seems about right.

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10-17-2017 , 09:28 PM

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Ezekiel Elliott gets another temporary restraining order. Eligible to play again, until the next court hearing.

Lol NFL. Lol at all this

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10-17-2017 , 09:32 PM

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That suggests the Packers will be lucky to go 3-7 the rest of the way and 0-10 is very live.

So Godgers has now broken his collarbone on both sides and unlike most other broken bones this one generally doesn't heal up good as new. He might be one minor hit from out of the league. If the Packers wanted to trade Rodgers this off season which teams say no to a straight up trade of starting QB's? Rodgers turns 34 in a couple months.

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10-17-2017 , 09:42 PM

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Can't think of a team that should say no. He would give literally any team in the league a 2-3 year min super bowl window assuming he heals ok. Rodgers with a semblance of an OL, a defense, and decent coach would basically be like the warriors of the NFL. As a vikes fan I'd trade Teddy, Bradford, and like 5 future firsts.

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10-17-2017 , 10:44 PM

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Can't think of a team that should say no. He would give literally any team in the league a 2-3 year min super bowl window assuming he heals ok. Rodgers with a semblance of an OL, a defense, and decent coach would basically be like the warriors of the NFL. As a vikes fan I'd trade Teddy, Bradford, and like 5 future firsts.

Ummmmm, no. A ton of teams should say no. You have teams like CLE and SF who are so terrible Rodgers won't make them instant contenders, then you have teams like DAL and PHI that have very young QBs on their way to elite status and the upgrade from them to Rodgers for 2-3 years wouldn't justify needing to roll the dice and draft a new QB after that.

There are some teams that should say yes. Teams like MIN and KC come to mind.

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10-17-2017 , 10:45 PM

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CLE/SF + Rodgers are instantly contenders obviously

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10-17-2017 , 10:46 PM

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Dak/Wentz are 5-7 points worse than Rodgers.

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10-17-2017 , 10:46 PM

#811

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Basically, lol u

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10-17-2017 , 11:16 PM

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CLE/SF + Rodgers are instantly contenders obviously

CLE/SF could be at/better than +6.5 at home vs NO, no?

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10-17-2017 , 11:18 PM

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CLE/SF could be at/better than +6.5 at home vs NO, no?

Correct.

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10-17-2017 , 11:30 PM

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So close.

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10-17-2017 , 11:41 PM

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CLE/SF + Rodgers are instantly contenders obviously

Lol. No.

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10-17-2017 , 11:43 PM

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Ummmmm, no. A ton of teams should say no. You have teams like CLE and SF who are so terrible Rodgers won't make them instant contenders

SF point differential in their last five games has been -13 and they lost every game. How does having Rodgers instead of Hoyer in this situation not make them a contender?

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10-17-2017 , 11:46 PM

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yeah SF with Rodgers isn't much worse than GB.

Their skill position guys aren't that bad, not like it's the Bears. He would make those guys so much better.

Hyde, Breida, Kittle, Aldrick, Goodwin

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10-17-2017 , 11:47 PM

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SF point differential in their last five games has been -13 and they lost every game. How does having Rodgers instead of Hoyer in this situation not make them a contender?

SF roster looks suspect, but their games have been so close that they are easily 5-1 or better with Rodgers.

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10-17-2017 , 11:47 PM

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Lol. No.

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10-17-2017 , 11:52 PM

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Rodgers’ value is even higher than normal given the lack of any elite (or even great) teams itl currently.

You have to be FatMike caliber dumb not to get this.

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10-17-2017 , 11:52 PM

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Rawlz, you seriously don't think Cleveland or SF should trade Kizer or Hoyer for Aaron Rodgers?

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10-17-2017 , 11:53 PM

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SF roster looks suspect, but their games have been so close that they are easily 5-1 or better with Rodgers.

Shanahan is a good offensive coach.

He would extract even more value out of Rodgers.

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10-17-2017 , 11:56 PM

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Rawlz, you seriously don't think Cleveland or SF should trade Kizer or Hoyer for Aaron Rodgers?

I kind of forgot this part to be honest lol. I still stand that it wouldn't immediately make them a contender unless by contender we mean "they could make the playoffs and go on a 4 game heater".

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10-17-2017 , 11:56 PM

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Rawlz seems to think (using the term lightly) that unless Rodgers makes them a contender (which he wrongly concludes would not happpen) then they’re better off tanking for....a QB that is 99.999999% to be worse than Rodgers.

Last edited by Heroball; 10-17-2017 at 11:58 PM. Reason: Nvm: he just can’t read.

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10-17-2017 , 11:58 PM

#825

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Yeah with the way things are going with injuries, just having a Brady/Rodgers is worth even more now than it has been.

We saw this last year when NE lost Gronk and still won the SB. And GB lost in the NFCCG to ATL despite having 1 of the worst D's in the league and no running game. As well as their best WR banged up.

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