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10-02-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
There's one guy in that picture who already knew they won the draft by taking Deshaun at #12. Lol at him not being the consensus #1 overall pick. He absolutely torched Bama's defense in two straight title games plus lighting up tOSU.
There were a lot of people who jumped on the Kaepernick bandwagon. Might want to wait more than a game or two to say he will be a successful NFL qb.
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10-02-2017 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
There's one guy in that picture who already knew they won the draft by taking Deshaun at #12. Lol at him not being the consensus #1 overall pick. He absolutely torched Bama's defense in two straight title games plus lighting up tOSU.
If that guy wasn't Rick Smith, the GM, I imagine there's a pretty good chance the Texans don't even make this move.
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10-02-2017 , 09:24 PM


Blake Bortles shown here with all the traits needed to play QB in the league. These are all consecutive throws.
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10-02-2017 , 10:45 PM
In for Go Bills.

Should be 4-1 after this weekend.
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10-02-2017 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich


Blake Bortles shown here with all the traits needed to play QB in the league. These are all consecutive throws.
He still looks pretty tall and white to me. What's the issue?
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10-03-2017 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
In for Go Bills.

Should be 4-1 after this weekend.
this is one they'd always lose the past 17 years. Cinci's got a top 5 defense, and Dalton and the offense has been on fire the last two weeks.

It's not going to be easy...
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10-03-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
Where do you rate Jay Cutler vs. Matt Moore? Where does "a longtime backup in the league" rate for you in general, and do you think Ryan Tannehill is worse than one?
Remember we're not talking about peak Jay Cutler. We're talking about one foot in the booth Jay Cutler. I think Moore who has been in the system for a year is probably a little better.

As far as the three of them are concerned, I don't think there is a ton of difference as far as what they bring to the table right now.

This is a really bad team. They need elite QB play to cover up all the flaws. None of the guys in the discussion is nearly good enough to do that, so it doesn't matter all that much if one is a little better than the other.
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10-03-2017 , 12:52 PM
Well, I think Tannehill is quite obviously better based on the evidence of how the team is performing now. He did in fact "cover up those flaws" in the manner you suggest the team needs from the QB. Moore has done OK in limited action but this is also a case of "If he's actually good, why have all the teams he's played on been reluctant to give him a full-time role?"

Moving on to other news, the Titans are looking into help at QB with Marcus Mariota possibly missing time. There's an available QB who fits their read-option, run-heavy concepts well, so they're gonna look into him, right?


Last edited by nath; 10-03-2017 at 12:58 PM.
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10-03-2017 , 12:58 PM
Let's look at the Buffalo Bills' defensive DVOA rankings over the last five years:

2013: 4th
2014: 2nd
2015: 24th
2016: 27th
2017: 1st

Hmm. What was different in 2015-16?

Spoiler:
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10-03-2017 , 01:08 PM
I'm here for the "I told you HOU was my dark horse pick this year".
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10-03-2017 , 01:12 PM
Sexy Rexy schemes were a poor fit for the Bills' roster. They really should have found an offensive minded coach and thrown whatever it took at him to keep Schwartz as DC.
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10-03-2017 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
I'm here for the "I told you HOU was my dark horse pick this year".
I've got $500 on them at 20-1 but that was mostly a hopeful play that Romo was gonna end up there after Denver officially moved on, but before he moved into the booth.
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10-03-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Sexy Rexy schemes were a poor fit for the Bills' roster. They really should have found an offensive minded coach and thrown whatever it took at him to keep Schwartz as DC.
If your coach can't adapt his scheme to maximize the talents of his best players, he's a bad coach. (Which may not be news, I suppose, but I just don't understand these teams that hire coaches like this. What do they say in the interview? "Well, I know we have good players at X, Y, and Z, but I'd like to marginalize them in favor of overly complicated schemes that make it look like I'm doing something creative.")
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10-03-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I've got $500 on them at 20-1 but that was mostly a hopeful play that Romo was gonna end up there after Denver officially moved on, but before he moved into the booth.
So things have worked out even better than you had hoped?
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10-03-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
So things have worked out even better than you had hoped?
Eh I think this defense + Romo is probably sitting better for a potential playoff run than with Watson right now. But I think especially if Mariota is sidelined for a while that they should be able to pretty easily to win the division.
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10-03-2017 , 02:11 PM
This Texans hype train escalated quickly...
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10-03-2017 , 02:21 PM
Bo'B will find a way to derail it
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10-03-2017 , 02:27 PM
Titans sign Brandon Weeden
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10-03-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Titans sign Brandon Weeden
The new answer for the "Just How Toxic Is Kaepernick" question.
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10-03-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
If your coach can't adapt his scheme to maximize the talents of his best players, he's a bad coach. (Which may not be news, I suppose, but I just don't understand these teams that hire coaches like this. What do they say in the interview? "Well, I know we have good players at X, Y, and Z, but I'd like to marginalize them in favor of overly complicated schemes that make it look like I'm doing something creative.")
Football coaches in general seem to be excessively stubborn on these matters. For how long did Atlanta try to get Vick to run a WCO? If those teams hadn't been so dominant running the ball they would've won like 3-4 games a year instead of going to the playoffs.

Belichick is the only exception as a head coach that I can think of off the top of my head. This era of the Pats are the only teams I've ever watched that were capable of adjusting gameplans and schemes in a significant fashion between weeks and within games.

Some of the better Ravens teams also had the ability to play multiple fronts on D, but most of those coordinators turned out to be trash as HCs.
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10-03-2017 , 02:48 PM
If the Titans played in not-Tennessee there would probably be a bit more of a chance...
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10-03-2017 , 02:54 PM
Well, Oakland's starting quarterback is out a couple of weeks...
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10-03-2017 , 03:04 PM
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10-03-2017 , 03:04 PM
Seems pointless. He wouldn't start over EJ Manuel (who is pretty black). & iirc you've told me Connor Cook is the next Cutler & that was a good thing.
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10-03-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Seems pointless. He wouldn't start over EJ Manuel. & iirc you've told me Connor Cook is the next Cutler & that was a good thing.
I mean, he should start over E.J. Manuel, because he's a lot better.

Cook compared more to Cutler before his shoulder was shot. He doesn't have the arm strength to play like that anymore and he's not good enough at anything else to be viable.
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