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10-31-2017 , 11:45 AM

#151

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Idiom card confirmed more powerful than the race card

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10-31-2017 , 11:53 AM

#152

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LOOOooooool seriously just posted a clay Travis tweet

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10-31-2017 , 11:55 AM

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Who the **** is Clay Travis?

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10-31-2017 , 12:17 PM

#154

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Originally Posted by LFC_USA

The BOTCHED idiom of inmates running the asylum. As I've stated multiple times I've people botch idioms hundreds of times. I know what the idiom is referring to and what he was trying to say if it was a genuine mistake and confusion of words. If he specifically stated, not the asylum the mother****ing prison, or the plantations as some others suggested then that would be a much different story.

he did specifically state the prison, which is why the quote says "prison"

How do you know what he was trying to say? Most of the time people say what they are trying to say so assuming he was trying to say something else without being the individual who said it seems really strange.

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10-31-2017 , 12:22 PM

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lfc, the idiom "a woman's place is in the home" is a very old and very famous idiom. How do you feel about some man saying this to women who work for him?

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10-31-2017 , 12:22 PM

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I don't. I suppose you are right. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and it registered in my mind as the idiom I've heard hundreds of time, when in fact a word was different. I still think there's been a massive overreaction but again respect the opinions of those who see it differently

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10-31-2017 , 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

lfc, the idiom "a woman's place is in the home" is a very old and very famous idiom. How do you feel about some man saying this to women who work for him?

That is a completely inappropriate and sexist comment for a man to say to a woman who worked for him. It aso has nothing to do with NFL protests. What are you getting at?

If that woman was doing whatever she wanted, not listening to her boss, and pissing off customers to ultimately be a part of hurting profits for the boss' business, I would expect the boss to use a more appropriate idiom like he can't let the inmates run the asylum

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10-31-2017 , 12:29 PM

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lfc, the idiom "a woman's place is in the home" is a very old and very famous idiom. How do you feel about some man saying this to women who work for him?

that's not an idiom though

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10-31-2017 , 12:34 PM

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https://esnpc.blogspot.com/2017/10/r...l-players.html

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10-31-2017 , 12:40 PM

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There's no reason to give McNair the benefit of the doubt. He's p clearly a white man old money racist. So why are some of you giving him the benefit of the doubt? Are these the guys and gals that are exceptionally compassionate and open minded?

Thought experiment: how many of those people that give McNair the benefit of the doubt give, say, Draymond the benefit of the doubt Everytime he flails his leg in the direction of an opponents testicles ?

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10-31-2017 , 12:44 PM

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that's not an idiom though

sure it is. Its been around in various languages and forms for almost 2500 years.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/a-woma...is-in-the-home

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/...-the-home.html

https://idiomation.wordpress.com/201...-in-the-house/

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10-31-2017 , 12:46 PM

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What is so telling about these people is that they go to great lengths to apologize for powerful white men, yet fail to realize that in doing so they are being dismissive of and patronizing to those that simply ask to be treated as a fellow human worthy of respect.

They go to there fainting chairs regarding a man being called a racist for dismissing the opinions of his black employees with racially tinged language. Yet they do not believe that a man should take offense at being called in inmate in a prison, if taken literally. Or a crazy person whose opinion is not worthy considering, if taken figuratively. This despite the players sacrificing their physical and mental well-being to make the sport what it is.

Te-Nehisi GOATs dropping the mike on another white supremacist, John Kelly, on a similar topic today:

Tweet thread.

As I've said, nearly every single post I've seen bomb make has been defending some white dude who said racist stuff. These people only defend the exact same kind of person, over and over. It's not even a tell, it's turning your entire hand face up.

It's so easy to not spend your day defending racists online. Why do you bother to do it lfc? What do you gain from It?

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10-31-2017 , 12:48 PM

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why? its just an idiom. She shouldn't be offended by a centuries old idiom, right?

Why would it be inappropriate to use a common idiom like that in one workplace, but not to use a common idiom incorrectly (in a more racist manner, nonetheless) in a different workplace?

sure it is. Its been around in various languages and forms for almost 2500 years.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/a-woma...is-in-the-home

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/...-the-home.html

https://idiomation.wordpress.com/201...-in-the-house/

Again getting way off topic but I thought it was an absolute joke draymond got suspended from the finals. Not sure if that's helps or hurts your narrative tbh

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10-31-2017 , 12:51 PM

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Great, now that Draymond Green has been brought up....

Can we please quit calling these people "owners". Mr Green finds that extremely offensive. Can you please start calling them "chairmen"? You insensitive jerks.

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10-31-2017 , 01:02 PM

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Here is a good example imo. I don't know McNair. I am pretty sure Hopkins has had numerous interactions and maybe these backhanded comments are his MO. For instance my female cousin has gained a few lbs over the years, and our aunt would say to her, "I'd bet you like a piece of pie." On the surface that's a completely innocent thing to say to somebody, but when the same person constantly makes those remarks you take them to mean something completely different. So in this case I'll side with the players since obviously they know him better than I do.

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10-31-2017 , 01:06 PM

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I would call it an old expression, but not an idiom.

idiom- a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light ).

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10-31-2017 , 01:09 PM

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I like how the SJWs who hate the sport are suddenly so offended by calling them inmates. $1.9 mil average salary, $450k minimum salary, private planes, stay in the Ritz Carlton on road trips and fed 4 meals a day by private chefs. Hardly sounds like prison life. Although they are numbered on gameday.

You cant disagree with a SJW on a race discussion without being labelled as the worst racist ever for not accepting their opinions as absolute truth.

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10-31-2017 , 01:17 PM

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There are no other options in civilized discourse.

And no, I'm not being civilized, but that's because numerous of you have demonstrated that you're unworthy of civilized treatment and incapable of civilized debate.

Hahahahaha. The judge, jury and executioner (yes an idiom) proclaims the end of civil debate! He can't even see the irony. Hahaha. This is rich!

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10-31-2017 , 01:29 PM

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You sound like the kind of person who thinks that it's not racist to suggest that black people would be better off picking cotton because they'd have a job and three meals a day.

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10-31-2017 , 01:31 PM

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Can you understand how it would be even more racist if he changed it to plantation? Changing it to prison is racist in exactly the same way.

I don't know if you're a USA#1-ian or not (seems like not) but in America, prisons are disproportionately black to an incredible extent. So much so that Kaepernick protests are actually about this very thing - the disproportionately unfair way that the criminal justice system treats black Americans.

The team and league is largely black -- so when you change the idiom to an institution that represents the systematic oppression that blacks in America face (plantation, prison), it's, uh, not a great look.

The bolded is patently false. BOP statistics show that whites make up nearly 60% of the prison population. Thus, you prison/plantation analogy also fails. The mistaken idiom is less racist.

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10-31-2017 , 01:32 PM

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The bolded is patently false. BOP statistics show that whites make up nearly 60% of the prison population. Thus, you prison/plantation analogy also fails. The mistaken idiom is less racist.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...sproportionate

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10-31-2017 , 01:34 PM

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The bolded is patently false. BOP statistics show that whites make up nearly 60% of the prison population. Thus, you prison/plantation analogy also fails. The mistaken idiom is less racist.

Man, never would have guessed that this troll doesn't understand statistics (or would disingenuously use them).

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10-31-2017 , 01:57 PM

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The bolded is patently false. BOP statistics show that whites make up nearly 60% of the prison population. Thus, you prison/plantation analogy also fails. The mistaken idiom is less racist.

Pretty lol stat to use white americans are like 75% of the country or something close

For those more informed-I did a cursory look and it looks like there's a much stronger correlation between income and imprisonment than race and imprisonment. I know this isn't exactly shocking and I'm pretty sure that's common knowledge, but does anyone have any good sources that break down by race and income? Every link I've seen breaks down by one or another but not both. I'm interested if the distribution of inmate population is similar between all races based on amount earned-as in, does the hump of the graph shift when adjusted for race.

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10-31-2017 , 02:01 PM

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Are we supposed to take "black people are poor" as an immutable law of the universe?

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10-31-2017 , 02:09 PM

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More of the "if you don't agree with exactly what I am saying completely you are a racist" commentary smh

That's on page 1 of the liberal playbook. No middle ground. Actually he said you are intellectually unworthy a liar or a racist if you see this issue different than me. Can't just be a disagreement.

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