Given how coaches don't really care about winning or losing in the preseason, I daresay this is the best time of year for FREE MONEY to fail in spectacularly hilarious ways

Do you mean the last second intentional safety 3 years ago?

A.J. Trapasso had the GOAT stat line in that game.
2 carries, 6 yards, 1TD, Long 40, 1 Safety

get new glasses?

massive wastes of picks.

in todays NFL the RB position is probably only going to be a +EPA position for a team if they have a really efficient downfield attack (NO, NE, PHI, IND all seem to have good RB returns, not from raw yards but from RB's being used the way they *should* be used, which is basically as a strategy balancer) or if you draft an absolute beast like MJD, Purple or even my long lost enemy Ray Rice.

Buffalo RB's drafted in the first two rounds since 2000 have a combined EPA of -313....this is not close, they have wasted some serious draft space and its a damn good reason as to why they usually suck balls.

CJ Spiller has been +EV btw, the other three were god awful investments.

Why does Reid's son's death become the top story on sportscenter and espn? seems a little personal.

We're going to have to hear about this all season long, especially if the Eagles are any good

because its the middle of summer and the jets dont practice on sundays

He was low level team employee and his death occurred at their training camp. As macabre as it may be, its well within the existing purview of ESPN to cover this.

sublime, many would argue the bills drafting cj in the top 10 was the worst pick of them all. they already had marshawn and freddie on the roster at the time.

they basically gave up marshawn for a useless 4th, and wasted their first on another rb.

eta: spiller is the only pick i would actually consider a bad one of the 4 rb's picked. not that he isn't good, but bc they already had fred/marshawn, and could've grabbed jpp.

sackSEER tho

It's like the Bills keep thinking the next OJ or Thurman Thomas is just a pick away!

marshawn sucks, a 4th round pick does not.

i am having a hard time seeing how three guys who have averaged -100 EPA over their careers are somehow better picks than a guy who is positive over two seasons. i am not having a hard time seeing that they should not have drafted Spiller, but he pales in comparison to the horrid investments (in both draft picks and usage) of the other three.

Marshawn doesn't suck, but that's only because he seems to have gotten better (or at least produced better results) after leaving that ****hole.

Berkeley?

hes had a net -50.9 EPA since he left.

he sucks, hes inefficient, hes overpaid.

i mean think about it...SEA just paid a guy a large sum of money to do what he does. which is touch the ball and improve the other teams chance of winning the game.

sublime is footballs version of iggy. Sort by epa-become expert.

Sublime, what do those teams you listed that have as you said had a +ev runningback situation have in common? Hmm..i wonder. Marshawn has been pretty good since he left buffalo. Mcgahee has been fine, and scherer is right that spiller was definitely the biggest reach.

Obviously its not ideal to draft a runningback in the first round and i dont condone it, but the ones the bills have picked seem to be pretty good compared to other teams.

edit: and yeah hes definitely overpaid.

The RBs the Bills have picked have been fine. and they seem to realize that you burn through a RB and throw him to the curb which I like. The problem is that have spent too many 1st round picks on them.

and it is telling that they have arguably the best RB in the game and he was a free agent.

31 year old fred jackson?

First two bolds together.. wat?

Third bold.. wat?

ok think about it this way. if you are going to draft a guy to run into a wall 25 times a game and COST YOU POINTS, why in the world would you spend a top 60 pick on that guy? draft a fifth rounder ffs.

also, if you think i "sort by EPA and become expert" you either dont read my posts or just dont get it. EPA is not the end all be all, but in terms of comparing it to raw yardage (which is what i assume you are doing) its night and day.

you think youre being clever by saying Sublime, what do those teams you listed that have as you said had a +ev runningback situation have in common? Hmm..i wonder yet I have already addressed that specific topic and as ray rice, MJD, Purple, Deangelo Williamas have shown, it is indeed POSSIBLE to be the focal point of an offense as a RB and have a good career. its just REALLY hard.

i mean really? we are arguing about whether Marshawn Lynch is a "good" nfl back and i have people saying yes...lol

yes. he's certainly not the best going forward or anything but he's in the conversation for this year at least.

wat?

lol wtfbbq

"using up a RB" is almost a sure fire strategy to have a .400 winning percentage over a decade and not get into the playoffs.

i mean i know i sound like a dik a lot, but if you guys arent getting this simple concept you should probably just post on the bleacher report forums.

of course its possible. However, there is not one runningback the ****ing patriots have that are more talented than lynch. Just my opinion of course.

what are you talking about? I'm saying use up a RB and throw him to the curb as opposed to sign him to a huge contract when he's 6 years in. that's all.

teams that have success drafting RB's in the first few rounds are good teams who already have an effective strategy mapped out (air it out, balance with handoffs and screens) if youre drafting a RB to form your offense you are a moron and NE/PHI/PITT are going to rape you.

btw, net epa is not the end all be all. Joe Addai had a solid +58, which is better than Purple but I obviously know who the better player is/was/will be. I suppose its sort of like basketball where usage needs to be factored in.

why do i have to run into people like you in life?

do you really think i am spending hours of my life compiling data to come on 2p2 and say shane vereen is more talented than Marshawn Lynch?