Boldin will be a Pat soon

The guys has thrown 20+ tds 2x in his career, 20 and 23, jesus, in this day and age how someone can have such piss poor passing td numbers is scary. Also, he is always looking to get replaced, Kaep was much better back then but Alex Smith was benched for a QB that is basically a back up qb now. His current team just drafted a QB after he just went 22-9 in 2 years.

7th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th, 2nd, 2nd are scoring defenses Alex Smith has had. I can't believe we are debating Alex Smith, the guy is the epitome of average.

the chiefs were the 1st team like in history not to have a WR catch a TD one season looooool

the wins are misleading... he's a sac of shiit

Smith isn't flashy but he's a solid average QB in the NFL. That is very valuable.

I think that's a huge mistake. A guaranteed #16 QB in the NFL is easily worth a top 5 pick. It depends on who else is in the pool of available players but not spending a 1st round pick on a league average NFL quarterback seems like a giant mistake.

If you can get a #16 guy like Eli or even Flacco who has the potential to go on a hot playoff run then okay. Alex Smith throwing two yards short of the sticks on third down isn't taking anyone anywhere.

I'd rather have Cutler than Alex Smith.

Pats had a roster crunch at WR. Pretty sure now they'll just keep Austin Carr on the roster. Amendola can step into Edelman's role.

That's just being results oriented since Flacco and Eli were both lucky enough to bink a title or two. Since Smiff's career renaissance began in 2011 the following QBs have been first round picks:

2011 - Cam, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder
2012 - Luck, RGIII, Tannehill, Weeden
2013 - EJ Manuel
2014 - Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater
2015 - Winston, Mariota
2016 - Goff, Wentz, Lynch

There's only two names on this list that I would unequivocally take over Smiff (Cam and Luck). Winston has potential, but at this point trying to teach him to be more careful with the ball may be a lost cause. Mariotta will probably be good if he can stay healthy, but that's not a given. The rest are pure trash.

So if being better than Smiff is required to be a first round pick then almost no one is worth being taken that high.

Well that is certainly a take

Do the Broncos have a legit shot with Smith at QB this year?

Couldn't see why not. Manning's last season and the few games of Ossweiler that they had were clearly worse QB play and that was good enough.

I agree with you fwiw

People arent drafting players in the top 5 to be middle of tbe road at their position. My goodness thats insane.

I guess, but the guarantee and the scarcity combined is extremely valuable.

Almost every qb on that list fvvcking sucks are would never get drafted if teams could do it over again.

Yes, most qbs arent worth taking that high.

I bet several of those qb could win as many games as Smith with top 5 defenses and good running games with solud HC.

Top 5 defense, top 5 HC, maybe top 5 running game and he hasnt won sh11t or put up good stats.

The problem is your team will always just be 6-9 wins with a qb like smith unless you have a top 5 scoring defense and a good running game then you can win 10+ games and have zero shot and doing anything in the postseason.

It happened two years ago, and that's without the good rushing part

Well drafts don't get do-overs so that point is completely moot. Furthermore it's not as if these drafts have produced tons of late round performers at QB. There just aren't many people on planet earth capable of playing QB at a high level against NFL caliber defenses.

FWIW KC was 14th in defensive DVOA last season and their running game was 19th. Even granting DVOA isn't a perfect metric calling their D or run game top 5 last season is a huge stretch.

More likely they bring Brandon Stokely out of retirement

The point is people aren't drafting players looking for the next Alex Smith, they are looking for something better. Most QB don't have as good of a situation Alex Smith is in where playing weak tight and throwing under 20tds can get 10 wins. They usually have awful HC, and awful defenses. Christian Ponder won 10 games in Minny with great running game and avg defense and that was an awful pick.

Their defense was 7th in scoring, but you are right, their running game was avg last year.

when it's qb thats a better than expected result

Snaptaking Mariotta over Smiff. Cmonson

Looking at Smiths last 3 seasons he is almost dead on #20 in att, yards, td in all 3 years. Looking at the starting QB for every team and I am not sure if I would take him over 20 starting QB's. The top 19 guys GM's and HC aren't looking to really replace and sure wouldn't replace them with Smith.

PSA

Preseason Redzone on today for three hours starting at 7:30pm EST

Cards @ Falcons
Jets @ Giants
Bills @ Ravens
Browns @ Buccs
Colts @ Steelers
Chargers @ Rams
Raiders @ Cowboys
Texans @ Saints
Packers @ Broncos

For the future? No disagreement. For just this season I'd take Smiff.

Eli and Flacco were lucky to bink their titles but they at did their part by heaving it down field where their receivers could make incredible plays or in Flacco's case get bailed out over and over by the refs. Alex Smith isn't ever binking anything with his tight/passive style.